No One Loves The F-4C Anymore (War Thunder)

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Spit, the missile going for the plane and not the chaff is correct. The sparrow uses a CW seeker, not pulse like the AIM-9C or R-3R. This means it "sees" the doppler effect (I.E. speed difference) in the radar waves coming back at it and guides independently of the radar. In this case the A-5C was still flying towards you, and was still in the radar beam so the missile still went for it. The CW vs Pulse seeker is part of the reason the 530F on the Mirage 2K is so bad, it's pulse, so even if the MTI keeps the radar locked on the plane, the missile goes straight for the chaff since it can't differentiate speeds like a CW seeker does.

GeneralLee
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I knew vulcan damage falling off recently wasn't all in my head.

slowserious
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I remember this being the most OP Aircraft of the game when Mighty Mouse Rockets could kill bases in seconds… and whole Teams of F4C‘s rushed all the bases and killed the airfield right after takeoff every game 😂

christopherrimann
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There was a “fix” 1 or 2 months ago where mass values for a lot of bullets got changed. The Vulcan and AN-M3 were amongst some of the guns that got nerfed quite big time

nicholasjensen
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I used to love the f100 it was real nice when you would fight the mig 19s and hunters, chinese mig 17 and mig 17as. But now its a nightmare to even look at the plane. battle rating changes are so silly with these modern vehicles.

dumbvixen
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I talismanned this a long time ago and ground out the entire F5E & F14 lines, getting the ‘natural’ ace qualifications in the process.

But since A5C and all aspects, I’ve never been able to play it properly anymore which sucks because it’s a great plane

Northern
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"You can dogfight everything except the F-5C, A-10, Su-25 and MiG-23"

Damn bro, so this plane is useless against 90% of the matchmaker?

spicynoodle
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Any cannons which use the US 20mm AN/M3 shells in game are bugged. The HE shells only produce about 2 pieces of fragmentation (compared to dozens on every other 20mm HE shell).

It's been bugged for quite a while but won't get fixed coz there's a bug report mod that refuses to forward any of the bug reports to the devs, saying that the bug reports require historical documents to prove that the HE shells actually produced shrapnel IRL...

dirtbag_jim
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I love all the f4 variants..they hold a ton of missiles and bombs good for grinding

kylelemire
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I miss the old says when everyone just dogdighted with each other, now air RB is idiot-proof missile spamland.

ofekk
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I have somewhere around 400 battles in the F-4C . In the current matchmaker it is pretty bad . It used to be pretty balances an enjoyable. Let's hope it will be like that again sometime in the future.

dimitrispatsiaouras
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It was super weird when the plane looks like it was destroyed in the first heading, thinking it's just a glitch or a new effect when you get hit, but it's sparks.

xunremosefuldisruptionx
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recently for some reason if your plane has a single piece of shrapnel pass through you even if the model is literally still blue it uses the full damaged model

Blitzozs
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I personally have it spaded and I can do 0 kill game like I can do 4 kill one. It's no between, I also find that just passing in the fur ball without turning as good result. That's why I find the f4c not super good but not super bad

jamar_tutorial
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I do! I play it all the time … great bomb load and decent radar missiles at rank… with low repair cost

Blueesteel_
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I'm SO glad I watched till the end. I'm a video game dev and the entire part of the game I've been spearheading, working nights and weekends on, has been scrapped.

drwaterslidephd
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I really feel like the stars aligned for you to have a good game on this thing

henrycastle
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🧐 Ive been grinding the British tree the past week, specifically I’ve been flying the Jaguar GR.1A and I’ve seen tons of F-4Cs. I haven’t flown the F-4C in Air RB in a long time but my US Ground RB 10.0 line up includes the F-4C as it really shines as a fast CAS option.

SuperTrb
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I *love* the F-4C. I only stopped playing it cuz I got the F-14, and because I was constantly getting killed by pesky Su-25’s and A-5C (10.7 pls). Its overall an incredible plane, and the only issue it has is the lack of flares.

FillyCheesteak
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Definitely agree with the Vulcan cannon issue, I've been spading the F-104A recently and it just doesn't kill things at all

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