Big Tech Is Making Employees Return To The Office

In this video I talk about how companies like Amazon, Meta, Goldman Sachs and even Zoom are sending employees "back to office" mandates that they must comply with or get fired.

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[stefanerickson]

My manager just got fired with no warning because he didn’t come in more than 3 days a week even though it’s a hybrid job. He was the smartest person I’ve ever met and we are struggling so hard without him. Genuinely such a good employee. The CEO referenced Apple when firing all those people

[MrGeekGamer]

My company has, for about a year now, required us to be in the office for two days a week. They don't enforce it though, so nobody turns up.

[augustday]

I think it's just a desire from leadership to micromanage people. They want people in the office so they can control them better. Employees working from home can much more easily set their own schedules and stay out of office politics.

[hewhoeatscheese]

They really wanna keep paying lease for their fancy office buildings.

[shapelessed]

Honestly, as a software developer the only place I can work anywhere efficiently was from home, where there is no distractions...

[logsupermulti]

Me and several other people at my last job were fired because we moved cross country during the Pandemic with the permission of our Boss and his boss. Worked entirely remote. Then the company changed owners and the new CEO had a hard-on for in office work and we were basically told that if we weren't willing to move back which in my case was over 2000 miles we would be fired I had been there four years, one women had been there almost 20 years, we were dropped like nothing. I decided to go to trade school. At least I got my severance pay.

[hellothere]

Office Space showed the nightmare of soul less office work for a tech company over 2 decades ago, the nightmare which included micromanaging, frustrating drives, a kind of passive aggressive corporate environment.

[FeedMeSalt]

I just straight up retired.
Decided I can live on 20k a year and moved hyper rural.

I will never work anywhere other then from home ever again.

[rootpotato]

Bosses are getting frustrated that they can't bully or sexually harrass their employees when they're at home!

[bald_chicken]

I was spending a month of time every year on commute alone. The whole month of my life just to get me to the place where I had to be near people I largely dislike. Not going back to that prison.

[plinyvicgames]

whats already been happening at companies that have been going back to fully in person, is that many senior engineers and staff just outright leave because they were only still working because they enjoyed it and it was possible to live where they want working online. companies going in-person are seeing a mass exodus of talent. its really quite sad.

[king]

The biggest reason(in my opinion) for that is most likely inability to break office leases. Since they have to pay for office space anyway, better be using it. Not to mention that all managerial roles that exist only to "supervise" others can't exist without people to watch over

[shreyassreedhar]

I think it's the pressure from realtors and local legislators to keep high property prices.

[banks]

A major reason that big businesses want to keep workers in the office is because they want to be able to monitor the workload of their employees, remember the only benefit to working harder in a lot of bureaucratic businesses is that you'll just get a larger workload.

[A_Lo_Pex]

If the goal is to have a stealth layoff, in all likelihood it will be the employees with the easiest time finding other opportunities -- i.e. the most talented -- who leave first. Sounds exactly like the level of competence I'd expect from most management

[scoutpyroz]

Well, at least the construction industry will keep on chugging.

[guest]

Two reasons for RTO: to justify the expenses on real estate, and middle management trying to hold their subordinates accountable.

[__gig__]

Having worked both remote and in-office jobs, you could never get me back in an office again. I left my previous job toward the beginning of 2022 because they were trying to bring us back in. Most office relationships are entirely superficial, and most of your coworkers will forget about you the day after you leave. If you're feeling lonely from lack of socialization in an office, you need to go out more in your free time.

[mickmoon]

The greatest irony of this return to work policy is that the people who re-introduced this policy don't actually practise this policy as most of them are remote most of the time from their homes micromanaging employees through phone and email delegating like a boss who had are rarely hybrid or in office to practise the infamous business and self improvement book of 10 hr work week for someone to have this type of lifestyle someone else will be paying the prixe in hrs, stress etc for an price of course but not mentioned in the book

[hinzster]

Back in the 80s IBM hit a rough spot where they for the first time in history had to downsize, and since IBM didn't fire people, they came up with a plan for early retirement. But as you said in RTO being a hidden firing policy, they can't choose who will leave them, so there were cases where two of three experts in a field took early retirement - which involved standing on their own feet for a few years until real retirement age - and the one they kept was staying with IBM because he knew he wasn't good enough to find a well-paying job in his field to bridge the half-pay years.
As for WFH not working, my employer was first surprised how efficient we became when we all were forced to work from home, then a bit concerned that people didn't "switch off" enough, thereby accelerating burnout. So we made it an optional thing, full work from home, hybrid, or full work at the office. Turns out people like when they get to choose, who'd have thought that.