Machiavelli on Virtu and Human Nature

PREMIUM: Symposium #36 | Machiavelli’s Discourses on Livy part I

Stelios, Carl, and Beau discuss the advice that Machiavelli gives us in his Discourses on Livy about how to found and structure a lasting society.

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[markzuckergecko]

Ah yes, "Virtu", the ancient greek god of virtue.

[andersschmich]

Every think about doing something about Ibn Khaldun? His ideas on the cyclic nature of human history, decadence, and decline seem interesting and relavent.

[allenbragg]

We should be looking back to see what works and limit the extremes?

[nickvanachthoven]

2:10 yes, 16th century virtue. manliness

[RichardDanielli]

Dear Stelios, it is Firenze not Florence. :)
Moving on, if one is going to define virtue classically, must we first not answer the question - What is a man?

[anon]

1:52 There is no Virtue in the 21st century. "Honour" also.

[ecNfe]

The Bondanella version translation says just replace virtu with skill in modern parlance and we all good

[jelmar]

Are you talking about "virtus"?

[jimbo]

Morals are for commoners, context is for kings.

[napoleonfeanor]

The Prince didn't really reflect his thinking. He wrote it get a job in the no longer republican Florence.

[Langharig_Tuig]

Not sure if Machiavelli is the best core to revolve around in this talk... Machiavelli is a paranoid villain; he's genuinely objectively evil.