Did Jesus’ Incarnation Affect the Other Persons of the Trinity?

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God is not devoid of feelings, i believe he is sad when we sin, and joyful when we come to him.

MultiJpad
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God bless you Dr Craig
Your ministry really helps a lot👍

naveneswaran
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If I have a very intimate relationship with someone and if they are abused or ill-treated or in any sort of pain that will obviously have an effect on me so similarly, once we establish that God is affected by things and persons outside him, we say that since all the three persons of the trinity have an intimate relationship with each other they will have an effect when Jesus incarnates as line of thought actually helps me to address issues where it feels like God the father was cruel to make Jesus suffer all the pain while he himself was unaffected

Thank you very much Dr. Craig for your ministry, it has helped me abundantly in my journey _/\_

nareenmolugu
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Impassability is a controversial doctrine however it has its merits. A God who could become affected would have some terrible implications for us, at least potentially. Could God be so affected by the wickedness in the world that He just wipe us out? Is God subject to moods? I am not so sure I would dismiss Impassability so easily. First of al it is a traditional doctrine only made controversial in our touchy-feely modern world. Second, the same language Craig uses here to say God is "angry" or "jealous" can be seen as similar to other anthropomorphic language that we would all agree are not literal.

karcharias
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But what about their natures? If the incarnation caused Jesus to take on human nature, did this affect the nature of all 3 members of the Trinity? Did their natures all change in the same way Jesus' did? How has the incarnation affected the Father in an ontological sense? I feel like WLC's answer falls short of answering the question!

lizzard
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I fail to understand the forgiveness part, of how jesus sacrifice was an act of forgiveness? Is it because god essentially "let" jesus die, and didn't intervene? Or is it because he didn't smite people as punishment like he has previously in old testament? This also combined with Jesus resurrection, for god death doesnt make a differnece. he could undo it.

pixboi
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Focus on the family released an amazing program called "the Truth project" and in it Dale Tackett teaches on how the Trinity really is not a Trinity in the New testament. Now that Jesus has paid the price and ransomed us from death and sin we now...NOW...stand beside the father the son and the holy spirit. I would add that being raised to that level is a highest level of honour. Today the spirit is here with us and in us and we are with Him in all ways and all times and moments. B.E.L.I.E.V.E.! May all those who took the time to watch this video and read the comments not only believe it but receive it and have a new transforming experience in the Lord-right now!

JJJheimerschmidt
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God is the example of maximally great faith not an immaterial incoherent actor. God can have all power over time, space, and matter without being timeless, spaceless, and immaterial. The Trinity is a man-made doctrine, post-apostles, that describes God as "completely other" and is incoherent bodily in composition. The scripture describes a different truth such as in Colossians 2: 4-10. Christ is the express image of God, all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

boltrooktwo
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Dr Craig looks to scripture to see if God is passable or not. For him, the Bible is clear. Shame he doesn't look to the Bible to see if it really teaches a Trinity or not.

gerryquinn
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I gave it thumbs up because it's about Christian theology . . . a subject of much speculation = guess work. But i don't accept these theories as having any practical value for everyday living. It's mere intellectual dilletantism.

piehound
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Can someone help me understand. WLC says that God would be grieved at the mistreatment and abuse of His Son and I believe this would be the case. The issue is that if the Father sent the Son, which Jesus says, while also saying "I lay down my life, no one takes it from me, I have the power to lay it down and to take it back up again." Scripture is also said that it was pleasing to God to crush the Son. Now I see both God's ultimate love and God's ultimate Justice in the cross but how could God have both emotions at once. How can He be both angry at humans while also being pleased at the Justice being served?

edge
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There is no "2nd person of the trinity", only "JESUS...the root AND the offspring of David" (Rev.22:16).

Isaiah 53:10 - _"Yet it pleased _*_the LORD_*_ to bruise _*_him_*_ ..."_
-- "the LORD" is the root of David
-- "him" is the offspring of David (i.e., the root of David made flesh)

euston
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If you listen to the Jesus' words with an open mind then their meaning is clear:
1. Jesus is the ONLY KING of heaven and He is ONLY with the Father
2. the Father, however, is A SPIRIT - the ONLY ONE - this means that the Father is ACTUALLY MISSING, nobody ever knew Him.
3. accordingly, Jesus sits at the right hand of the POWER (the power is merely a "thing")
4. the Father who is a spirit is called "Holy Spirit" by Jesus.

claudiozanella
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Hello

Jesus is the Messiah
The Son of God
The Son of David
The Son of man
The man God has chosen to be his anointed king
The man God will judge the world through
The man God raised from the dead

Jesus has a God
There is no triune god in scripture


Jesus said the Father is the only true God!

John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.



Acts 3
13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Servant Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied before the face of Pilate, when he had determined to release him.
14 But ye denied the Holy and Righteous One, and asked for a murderer to be granted unto you,
15 and killed the Prince of life; whom God raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.


Notice Jesus is NOT the God of Abraham

13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Servant Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied before the face of Pilate, when he had determined to release him.

mitchellc
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God is a family, not a trinity. The trinity doctrine disenfranchises all the other holy spirits, immortal, working on behalf of God. Some even have names. In the name of the holy spirit, the holy spirit has no name.
Ephesians 3:15

eltonron
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The so-called "trinity" is a 100% man-made and non-scriptural concept: It does not appear in any of God's revealed scriptures -- not in any book, not in any chapter, not in any verse.

godonlyone
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Its sad to see viewpoints long known to be false by Christians resuscitated and taught like this... Surely we can't understand God to have emotions like human beings?

"Every best gift, and every perfect gift, is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of alteration." (James 1:17)

helmofgod
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God is One not three…there’s no such thing as a trinity…stop leading people to hell

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