The VERY Messed Up Origins™ of Corpse Bride | Folklore Explained

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» 0:00 - Intro
» 2:08 - Sponsor
» 3:39 - The Finger
» 10:21 - The Demon in the Tree
» 15:03 - What does it mean?
» 18:32 - Wrap-Up

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» Written by Jon Solo
» Researched by Jon Solo and Meredith Walker

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» The art depicting the Corpse Bride in the temple was provided by the all-powerful Markus Stadlober! Check out more of his incredible work!

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[Moomoo-tzjv]

You missed a very important part of the story of the finger that when bride is dying shira Felt pity for her “She knelt over the remains of the corpse bride, hugged her, and mumbled and sang a promise: “Don't worry, I'll live your dreams for you, I'll live your hopes for you, I'll be your children for you, I will have enough children for both of us and you can rest in peace. ”She also promised the funeral bride that she would never forget her. With her bones in her arms, she went to the river bank and carefully buried them there, with the wedding dress arranged and the wedding ring on her finger. The corpse seemed happy, as if she knew her wishes were being granted. The young bride then married her groom in a solemn ceremony and they lived happily ever after. The story of the funeral bride was always told to all of her children and grandchildren so that it would not be forgotten. I like this Folklore that it shows the two women supporting each other. It a very sweet story

[maxs.]

Corpse bride came out about two years before my baby brother passed away, I was only around 5. Corpse bride meant so much that it became my first special interest. It helped me not view death as being a bad thing, just a change. It means a lot to me

[prettyfreaknordinary]

"they were smacked in the face with a tree branch, killing them."
Me: *who has had their fair share of tree branch bitch slaps* "I feel their pain."

[DoomedPaladin]

"I can give you seven minutes." I laughed way too hard at this one.

[kristinwiebold]

I like the first story and how the pastor took what the dead bride was saying seriously and there was a meeting to settle everything. While they were trying to fix the situation, pastor should have asked the woman's name so they could see if she had been murdered like the corpse bride or if it was something else. But it was also good they buried her properly. Glad the groom got in trouble for not taking his vows seriously.
I mean seriously who jokes with wedding vows??

[aliciatucker]

If I recall my Jewish/Eastern European traditions correctly, the idea of becoming a "Lilith's daughter" derives from the concept that when a girl dies unmarried and without children she has died in a cursed state. Because of this she spends her unlife tormenting others with her anger and vengeance, taking their children and trapping those who don't take the traditions seriously. Like the Celtics banshee, she is viewed as an avenging spirit, but not evil. She IS the reminder to reverence the continuity of generations and that everyone, no matter who, deserves their place in the line. As to the English vs Jewish/Eastern European traditions, older pre-Christian traditions linger. With how widespread the tradition of marrying off the dead was and still is it's not a surprise that someone like Tim Burton would make a movie about it.

[srg]

Ok but imagine the kids from the second story going to school and drawing their family and the poor teachers having to listen about mommy, daddy, and tree mommy that daddy visits in the night

[nrkish]

The thing about the Corpse Bride isn't that he wasn't taking the vows seriously, or playing a joke, he was practicing because he was super nervous, and placed a ring on what he thought was a tree branch. It's like people who try to say a speech in front of a mirror, or rehearse in their mind what they're supposed to say. With that said, I could agree that this was LOOSELY based on those stories, but the intent or actions that lead to them wasn't anywhere near the same.

[marievanderlinde]

Corpse Bride just has to be one of Tim Burton’s best movies.

[greyworld]

The finger!


I like that in these tales the dead bride wasn’t a antagonistic villain.

[taekwongurl]

I was an adult when Corpse Bride came out and I found the concept actually terrifying. Also, claymation upped the creep factor of that movie.

[adakru]

I'm really happy you covered a Jewish folktale. It's always really nice and interesting to learn about more stories from my people, especially when it's so rare to see it covered in the first place.

[SoranotRoxas]

Corpse Bride is one of Tim Burton's underrated movies. Nice to see somebody besides me actually remembers it 👌

[littlesongbird]

If I recall, some variations give the back story on the corpse bride. She was killed on her way to what would have been to meet her promised groom and buried in a shallow grave. Also in some variations Shira actually mourns for the corpse bride and promises her that she will never be forgotten and she and Reuven will always tell her children and grand children about her so she will never be forgotten.

[diegos]

I think this are the morals of the Story
Story 1. Be careful with paying Jokes in wrong moment at the wrong time. There are moments you cannot play certain jokes and show respect.
Story 2. Be clever and learn how to approach conflict instead of been evil with the Demon and burning her tree, she Wife negotiated and was kind to her until she decided to leave.

[azlilyth]

Fellow Jew here. And fyi: In the Demon in the Tree, the demon almost certainly didn't release the man from his promise out of the kindness of her heart. As you stated, the couple entered a Contract with the demon. Contracts are hugely important, serious matters in Jewish culture and religion. From the sounds of it, that contract essentially made the man an indentured servant to the demon (in actuality, a dead Jewish woman). And in Jewish law, indentured servants and slaves alike are required to be offered freedom after 6 years of servitude, i.e. in the 7th year (Shemos 21:2, Parshas Mishpatim; Devarim 15:12, Parshas Re'eh). So yeah, she was following required law, not being kindhearted.

[maieen]

9:26 Ah, yes; the “It’s Just a Prank, Bro” defense.
I haven’t seen _The Corpse Bride_ but after watching this video, I might check it out. I also don’t mind more wholesome _Messed-up Origins™️_ videos.
I wish everyone a happy thanksgiving tomorrow. If you don’t celebrate thanksgiving, I wish you a pleasant day nonetheless

[glossysky.e]

Burton knew that Depp and Bonham Carter would be perfect for these rolls, their chemistry and individual vibes really MADE each and every one of his movies imo. I love both of their work

[celticpoet]

Awesome job and excellent parallels! For the movie specifically, Emily's backstory also reminds me of an old American ghost story based on a haunted spot called "Emily's Bridge". In the 19th century, Emily is a young woman who falls in love with a handsome man who asks her to marry him (in most versions, he convinces her to elope). They would often meet at a special bridge that runs over the Golden Brooke and they make the bridge their meeting place before running off together. Emily goes to the bridge at the appointed time, but her beaux doesn't show up. There are different versions as to what happens next-stricken with rage and heartbreak, some say Emily either hanged herself from the bridge, threw herself from off said bridge and drowned herself or drove the horses drawing the cart she is sitting in, crashes them into the Brooke and kills herself in the crash, or the possibility that she was murdered. Legend says that her ghost haunts the bridge.

[aristocrat]

I'm with you on the morals being taught. Promises are one of the most serious things in Jewish culture, and breaking promises only leads to misfortune and pain. There are enormous sections of law regarding promises.