Move Over Dyneema Composite Fabric, Here Comes Ultra 200!

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Ultraweave fabric is an exciting new fabric is making waves in the backpacking community. Ultraweave is strong than comparable weight DCF used for backpacks, it's also waterproof, and cheaper than DCF.

Check out LiteAF Packs 10% off Ultra 200 Backpacks now through March if interested.
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3:00 - Ecopak fabrics are not made from 100% recycled materials. Most of their fabrics have 100% recycled polyester parts, this excludes coatings and backings.
And also this is not the case for the Ultra-line fabrics you are talking about, they contain new nad recycled components. There is a really good PDF on the Ecopak website explaining this. :)

mattes
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I've got a couple packs from Waymark that use ecopak, and that stuff is awesome. It's also 100% recycled. It's great to see these companies caring more about the impact of the fabrics they're using. I'm really itching to get my hands on some of the ultra fabric.

john_kelley
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I can’t wait to see the tents that come out of this.

susanevans
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I ordered a Unaweep 4800 from Seek Outside a few weeks ago made in Ultra 400 not even realizing it was a new material so now I'm really excited to get it and try it out. Thanks for the info.

leelowder
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Hey all this is a collection of information taken from all over the place. Most sources are in the video description, but if I got anything wrong, please let me know and I'll update this pinned comment.

FrozensAdventures
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Grumpy old man here. If you want something bomber, don't forget about good old Cordura. I have a Cordura climbing pack I bought in the 1970s - I've used it for thousands of days and it's still going strong. I sit on it, I've hauled it up rock pitches, I've thrown it into the holds of planes, I've bushwhacked through thickets...

Indestructible. Any of these fancy composite thingies would have been in the landfill decades ago.

Is it a touch heavier? Sure. Is it waterproof? Not very. But I use a liner and the extra weight is pretty insignificant in real life. And compared to the composites, it's cheap and has a much nicer hand.

If you're looking for value and durability, you don't always need the latest shiny thing!

tullochgorum
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AWESOME 👊 Thanks Jason, appreciate the update for sure👍

db.mc
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Was just about to purchase a Lite AF for next season! This was a helpful video! Didn’t know they had switched over! Makes it more exciting to get a new pack! Thanks for the vid!

Ontrail
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How does the abrasion resistance compared to Dyneema Diamond Technology 2.0?

RoboticusMusic
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I was able to get my curve 46l in the Ultra 200!! Done a few hikes with it and I'm beyond pleased with it! and the material def is a game changer, in that it has much better abrasion resistance! I love it! Thanks for the videos Frozen! keep em comin'!

nikosgardenreserve
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Hey Jason Exciting things to come that is fantastic and a perk for decluttering the world and cheaper I will take the few extra ounces for that.

claramullen
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Great first run review Frozen. Have a great Thanksgiving. God Bless

davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker
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I picked up a Fast Track Pack in Ultra200 and it’s fantastic. Unlike most of the DCF offerings it’s actually soft to the touch when rolling the top down, is far less noisy (when rolling the top down) than HMG’s DCF packs in cold weather too.

Also comes seam sealed like DCF.

Enjoying it so far.

kerry
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Thanks for the video. Seems like Ultra doesn't fully hold up. Multiple reports about bad delamination. It should be way more but I assume most people don't thru hike with them. Last year on the PCT I saw two Ultra packs only as it was so new. The people reporting delam are people who hike extensively, too. Also I think Challenge did adjust the fabric already or offer different fabric now.
I've gotten back to Gridstop and holding off the Ultra.

wio
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I ordered my first ultralight pack from SWD a few weeks ago (upgrading from an REI flash 45), and it will be made with Ecopak! I'm excited!

bjf
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Im making raised diamond pattern sewn cushions out of this stuff for my camper, feel kind of bad im not making a tarp tent with it.

awoodonliner
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Awesome! I think Waymark is using it too! Can't wait to see what they do with it.

BackpackingwithBuckley
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great video and fabric my review will be 100% real world 600 mile thru hike review bushwhacking/ blowdowns / 5.5 days of all day after day rain / everything you get on the less travelled trails once I’m done with the BMT

mischiefonthetrail
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You had me at recycled water bottles! I will keep an eye on this fabric to see how the reviews are for packs made from it.

KuntryRD
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Sounds promising. Thanks for your research on this.

philsellers