responding to people saying wuthering waves isn't a genshin clone...

Wuthering Waves released their closed beta test (cbt unfortunate abbreviation) in china recently.

It seems like Wuthering Waves is more like Genshin Impact that we thought.
I quit playing Genshin though so that doesn't bode well for the game.
I'll still play it on launch though.

just realized how centrist this video is. whoopsie. i have no strong opinion one way or the other.

Here some key word : OPEN WORLD ANIME RPG

[kanatae]

They already addressed the problems this CBT had the Gatcha/World/Story since it's a CBT i already see what the OP is talking about and it's appreciated but the gatchagaming subreddit has the most toxic members i have ever see since they have a seething hate on kuro because of the fiasco on the PGR release that's why it's probably not wise to take an opinion there though some CC really like to stir some drama here and there and just spit some bullshit criticism and call it a day without having a valid and unbiased take like what you just did right now and your other video.


If you don't have a good argument then please for the love of god STFU and don't make unnecessary drama here and have a good day 🗿

[swayamdas]

Bros talking bout a game where's mc can't even talk 🤡

[shutter-chan]

The moment I saw him pulling out the post from gachagaming subreddit I knew the comment section is gonna be fun.

[arlissven]

>saw video "ok lets see what this person say
>pulls out r/gachagaming as source
>"ok im out"

these CN "Community" in question is literally a super minority being pissed off, in reality the bilibili thread are a constructive critics thread, only a fraction of people are "pissed off" and they said the entire CN community is pissed lmao. taking advantage of language barrier to spread misinformation especially against kurogame is so r/gachagaming, since that subreddit is just filled with hoyoverse bootlickers whiteknights defending their multibillionaire company when there's literally no threat so they just spread misinformation themselves

[prisciliaflora]

Regarding the gameplay and what you think... welp you don't like it apparently, the grind part. But i don't understand what it has to do with genshin. I personnaly prefere a game that i need to play, not a game that i can auto everything. Well in fact i like the auto thing too, for a side game like HE or AL but not for an open world, what the point of an open world if you never do things on it ? At least the grind part is not stoped by the lack or stamina/resine watever. If you want to do it you do it if not then you don't.

Now regarding the CN comments... i don't know about the plot but for the others parts, i have seens some live stream on youtube and yes the world seems empty, but its CBT1 so who know whats going to happens, animations were good, the games was running good apparently, only some fps drop because of the stream, didn't have crashes and have a lot of different mobs in the open fields so i do'nt know.... maybe they tested it on the worse phone ever ^^

All i see, but i'm maybe wrong, is genshin fan boys going on a crusade against Wuwa. If you think CN revue are honest and not selfcentered you are delusional. Its CN community that destroyed one event from Honkai global because of jalousy and when i talk about destroying its litteraly that, the video for the event got deleted. And we already seen how the fanbase of genshin can destroy a game just by trashtalking it and hacking it.

So maybe next time that you want to build your opinion, look at the footage people did, look at some live stream etc... if you don't have time then... don't loose your time trying to trashtalk a game that you personnaly have not tested.

And i like how in the same sentence you're able to say, Tof or Wuwa are clone of Genshin and Genshin is inspired by BOTW, apparently one can be "inspired" but the other are clones... If that's not a big clue of your already absolute preference, i don't know....

Now lets compare your list (that you don't tell) about similar things on the two game and my list of different things :
- Arial combat : Maybe its not a full flying combat like for exemple some char in honkai, and i thing its better that its not but its realy a good aspect in a combat system.
- Parry system : Inspired by there other game of course, and its something realy fun to have in combat
- Perfect dodge : There is a lot of game that use that because its fun but apparently not genshin
- Post apo theme : You like or not, that's something else but in the end its totaly not like the medieval fantasy style of genshin
- Not colorfull style : Again, you like or not but its not like genshin
- Character design more mature : That for me is a really good point for Wuwa but again you like or not.
- Not the same elemental system : Elemental system is a core aspect of genshin impact, not using it already make a big gap between the two games
- Echo system : Apparently you don't like grinding, so i'm pretty sure you'll not like it but thats make a different pretty significative compared to genshin even if people will says that at the end its just artifact in a different way. But with the differet way to obtain and the utility linked to it (use in combat or explo), i don't think so.
- Grapling for explo : A good point for explo, not in genshin and not the same as tof
- Running on walls : Again a realy good point for exploration and style (if you like)
- Team of 3 and not 4 : So more like Honkai or PGR, probably more efficient for fast combat i don't know i don't realy care i guess, but that add to the difference
- Concerto system : Hard to explain in just a sentence but its more like a debuff/buff on swap QTE more like PGR i guess
- Big city vs small city : Adding a big difference in the world aspect, maybe they need to add more life in it, i personnaly don't care that much about useless npc but maybe it will make it more fun for some people
- Bestiaire absolutly different : And i mean realy realy different, i saw a zomby car as a mob (that you can have in the echo system) That's just an exemple but a big one ^^
- Double ultimate for some characters : Ok maybe not that important but its cool
- Combat more fast : Maybe you don't like it, but its realy different
- Probably a completly different story and lore : Good or bad, there is no way that they will have similarity with genshin (because post apo / more mature etc...)
- More different body type for characters : From what i've seen so far they are pretty divers in that regard, not just 2 model for men and 3 for womens

I'm pretty sure there is a lot more to add but i think its already pretty big list.

[yomoheiliv]

This "korean" Mihoyo whiteknight with 11 subs is really trying hard to defamate Wuthering Waves, huh.
You just can't really opine about it, mate.
You need to play more games than Genshin.
Thanks for the shoutout tho.

[Akiyuki]

What are you trying to do?
Provoking Kuro fanbase? Proving Wuthring Waves is a genshin clone?
Just let you know that the average Kuro fanbase is an adult, so just a suggestion if you want to give an opinion, look for the right source. Don't toy with Kuro's fanbase about an opinion as they will reply more accurately about your mistake. Their community is strong, a toxic minority in Kuro Fanbase and the developer and community relationship is quite close.

You're opinion not wrong, but I think that will make a problem especially to the toxic people ini Kuro fanbase

[jordanpalmer]

Yh it’s not like there’s never being any anime open world game before genshin and there’s no such thing call imitating, nah because genshin created everything. Gotta love the genshin white knights and people who only people genshin cause this just beyond baffling. Here’s a fun fact you probably never know: genshin Imitate or in the language of genshin bootlickers “copied” BOTW. Isn’t that crazy?

[JJKMagic]

When you make a video about a game without even bothering to do any research about said game and then wonder why people are trying to correct you. Yes, the CBT released... so instead of reading one random post focusing on one aspect of the game you could have, you know, watched a video about the actual CBT to learn more about the game lol

[hexfizgamingch]

KEKW .... man i cant..
Bro literally said, game is bad because i had to play the game. I mean well, you know, maybe try to look for auto-battle game?
Anyway, a lot of your argument is basically "You" problem. If u dont like it dont force yourself, and move on.
If u dont want to get dissed dont poke the hornet nest ? Like u are basically saying Game A is a clone of its predecesor, a game with dedicated fandom, what are u gonna expect ?
Btw, Jst because CN player said so doesnt mean it is true, it is still an opinion

Note: well at leaat you now used Open world Anime game now.

[averageYTviewer]

Bruh the game is not even officially released yet. WTF is wrong with y'all?😂
Y'all really doing everything just to bring down a game that's still in beta.
Let the game be and make some good critism in order for them to improve. Y'all just whining about the things that you don't like and that's it. At least give some feedback on how they can improve.

[DebDank]

Why don't we compare GI and WW on its first CBT release? Why compare a game that's barely out yet? Those things can be addressed later on by the Devs that's why it's a CBT! They're suppose to collect feedbacks and suggestions from players that played the beta. This Vod is just stirring up more unnecessary drama. 🤷

Seriously the r/gachagaming? Literally a KURO hater subreddit. Bro 💀

[murazakii]

This guy keep saying clone when 2 games have the same genre. (trails series=honkai star rail) 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡



Genshin impact is a single player RPG with Multi Player

Tower of Fantasy is a MMO

they are different.

[Shimazakii]

Imagine trying to make a point by going into r/gachagaming of all things💀💀💀

[Asaki]

The first video that doesn't try to please players, but rather gives honest thoughts about the game, even if they aren't positive. In the PGR community and Hoyoverse games, if you say something negative about the game, you will be counted in the comments. It's sad that these communities are so shallow. These people are like little children and don't realize that their highly anticipated game will suffer because of it. As for the reasons you gave, they are fair and I'm not a fan of grinding either. For me, a gacha game looks like this: I pull for character -> improve its level -> improve skills, and that's basically it without any weapons or other useless artifacts or gears with rubbish RNG. The game is primarily intended to have multiple endgame modes, and that's what makes it still fun in the long run.

[fingermi]

It is a complete copy, even down to the text font. And the redhead character with 2 moles under her eyes, just like Sparkle from HSR. They aren't only copying Genshin, they're copying Hoyo

[hei]

dude from what i saw in this vid, the game is really not for u.. easy as that

[skyzell]

Bro really tring so hard to raise the view count and the subscriber by whiteknighting genshin lmao

[trinhgiabao]

WW is definitely a cheap copy of BOTW2

[Kizen.]

So, the main points people are bringing up is story and pacing. The early story is almost never good. Hell, even Genshin's early story isn't good. (Mondstadt is painfully boring after the first time around, as it only seemed good because of the initial spectacle. The issues with story have been present in Genshin, it wasn't until Sumeru where the game picked itself back up again, as only Liyue had GOOD story.)

Judging the game based on endgame when there isn't a playable endgame in the beta makes no sense. Kuro games doesn't ever drop the ball on endgame. PGR alone shows this. Norman, Tower of Babel, Pain Cage, Warzone, Strongholds, and more.

Genshin only has the Abyss. And abyss can be done with minimal effort.

When we talk about combat and difficulty, there IS a demand for that. Fast paced difficult combat is literally what Elden ring and Devil May Cry offer. How can you make the statement that people aren't looking for that, when two of the biggest complaints about genshin is that it is too easy, and there is no endgame? Both things that Kuro games delivers on, and would be a certainty here. It also looks better graphically than Genshin.

I can see the valid criticisms here, but it's very clear that it's still early on. This isn't the finished product. Genshin's alpha and beta weren't stunning either.