The Origins of Islam - 7.1 Before the Dome of the Rock

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The name of the tribal leader mentioned in the video was al-Fahmi, NOT al-Fahrni.

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In this video, we are briefly looking at the history of the Temple Mount before the Dome of the Rock. It may be surprising to some that not a single source mentions the Rock at the centre of the Temple platform before the 4th century AD.

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Reference for this episode:

Grabar, Oleg. The Dome of the Rock. Harvard University Press, 2006.

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This should be the prequel to the series and have something along the lines of "why you should care" in the title. I had no idea why I should watch your videos about this Dome, I didn't understand the significance of the site's continuity and ruptures (highly political events at that).

oliverd.shields
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Good to see you back! Something I've always wondered about is the beginning of the veneration of relics, such as the possession of the "true cross" in the 7th century. With the likelihood of the cross on which Jesus died being taken away being virtually nil, it's interesting that such claims coincided with early Islamic claims on locations in Jerusalem.

ImCarolB
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Our teacher is back and I'm so ready and eager to learn. Thx Thomas!!

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Yay!! Good to see you back! I’ll be following this series with great interest.

mariaveritas
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Thanks. Looking forward to the future episodes.

toddbeamer
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Wow your back, gr8 to see you... Thankyou.

bobfisher
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Welcome back. Another clear exposition.

markaxworthy
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I look forward to see how this series progresses!

ryanspencer
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I love looking into the history of Islam. Thank you for doing this.

threelilies
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The wait is over! Thank you Thomas Alexander! Grüße aus Wien

NostalgieFreak
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Another excellent video Thomas, and great to have back

simonhengle
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@Thomas Alexander do you please have a reference and picture of different Shahadas, and even Shahada without Muhamed in the time of Ibn Malik?

sasa_sasa_sasa
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i am learning from your vlog.. thanks for your efforts to upload this kind of historical gem..

Sage-Poets
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@Thomas Alexander can you please give me a reference and picture of different Shahadas expecially from Ibn Malic?

sasa_sasa_sasa
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Welcome back...we missed you! Great Work Thomas!! It is great to see the benefits of becoming a Gold Supporter on Patron.

biblebrief
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I thought you were being shadow banned. Great to see you back. We need all the actual historians on this topic we can get.

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Glad to see you Thomas, Welcome back.

yakovmatityahu
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Happy to see you here again and excellent video as By the way, what is your insight about Mandaeans and proto koranic influences

Edit. I am not so sure that the first temple of Jerusalem it´s form Salomon, but from Omri or Jeroboam II times even if some sort of temple was already in Jerusalem an other parts of the South (Judea / benjamin) with Shekinah and his wife the storm god YHWH statues (colums) and the "ark" being a place to put the bull of YHWH that were common on Israel, Juda and Ammon were the cult of YHWH begun with the cult of other Gods since there are no archeological evidence of true Monotheism until the contact with Persia Persian Zoroathrism .... It´s even possible that the first "hittite" temple from Hitties running from the fall of Hatti by the "sea people" were responsible for the first cult there (Nerik?) since the city was independent and later a basal of the Judea that could be at the same time vassals of Israel until the fall of the North .... at least that what I think I can recall since I am no expert Thomas

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Welcome back Thomas.. your videos are of high value production and information value.. very eager to watch the rest of the videos in the series..
Question: is there any historicity for Khalid bin Waleed, what is his true story? Is he the Mohamed of tayaye? (Caliph) Umar?

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Welcome back, Alexander. I'm intrigued by the name of Khalid, presumably the same Khalid who waged war in Iraq in the battles from 628-632 approximately, that of "al-Fahrni". Al-Fahrni sounds immediately very like "Ferns" and even more remarkably is how close it is to a Swiss German name. Indeed, there is a Swiss German topographic name Fahrni for someone who lived in an area with ferns from Middle High German varn. There is even a district called Fahrni which is a municipality in the administrative district of Thun in the canton of Bern in Switzerland. A lot of words have come to us from the Middle East, and this might be a case in point, of interest only if it suggests that his name refers to "ferns", something Green. One of the reasons for the Arab success against the Sasanians was that the Parthian families aligned themselves with them to push them out. Oddly enough the Parthian families, such as the Karins, got re-established as a result of this alliance. The Pahlav or Parthians were to a large extent Mihraist, and they believed Mihr was an avenger against bad rulers, ie like the Sasanians. This gave them religious motivation for rebellion such as the Mihrānid Bahrām-i Chūbīn (590–591) and Vistāhm (595–600), who were both of dynastic Parthian families. Where do ferns come into all of this? In Mihraist belief, the god Mihr had three functions of royalty, warrior caste, and peasantry, Mihr also carries the three colors of white, red, and green, representing each function respectively. Mihr as a nurterer is associated with green, the colour of growth and vegetation. Green's link with the peasantry comes into play when the circle of justice between the king and peasants has been upset.
The color green and the messianic symbolism of a white horse appearing from a body of water in order to kill an unjust king are all symbolic representations of the God Mihr, in whose safekeeping not only the custody of the farr (xwarra or Divine Glory) rests, but who also bestows this farr on a suitable royal candidate. The Karins are noted for wearing green to symbolise Mihr. For example, according to the Tārīkh-i Ṭabaristān, in one of Khusrow I’s battles against the Turkish Khā-qān, unexpectedly, an army of about two to three thousand emerged—it is not clear whence—all clad in green attire, so much so that “all except their eyes and [that of?] their horses was covered in green.” Donning green and hurling green flags, they aided Khusrow I to victory, setting out to leave the battle arena in the same mysterious way in which they had appeared. If al-Fahrni is in someway etymologically linked to ferns, then it might be clue to Khalid's identity, ie that he belonged to a Parthian dynastic family rebelling initially against the Sasanians, and then heading to Syria and Palestine to extend his power. This is purely speculative but always worth a shot.

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