The Winners and Losers of The Boys Season 4

The supes are back. And so are the Boys. But which plotlines thrived in Season four and which missed the mark?

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[aegisgamingofficial]

Wait til Nando realizes her name is Grace Mallory.

[stevencooper]

I really like the "Medusa" theory for Ashley. The metaphoric/actual face-off between "Medusa" and "Poseidon" would be fitting.

[BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

As a cancer patient, everything with Billy and Kessler worked for me. Knowing your time is limited does have this kind of nihilistic and misanthropic effect on you. Billy's "mission" got him to that point, and this is carrying him the rest of the way.

[epicgamer]

I feel like people keep forgetting that everything didn't go to plan for Sage. It just ended up where Sage wanted it.

[KungFuWombat]

As far as Sage goes, the writers actually talked about how difficult it is to write the alleged smartest person in the world when you are fact, not nearly that smart yourself.
I think they did a decent job with her character, but I definitely agree they should have shown us a little more about how she impacted the events as they happened.

[sixtytwo.]

To Sage's credit in terms of her plan being visible to the audience, I feel it was pretty clear she knew A-Train was the leak when she told him "that footage didn't just run itself out of crime analytics".

[plasmabeamgames]

Laz Alonso didn't just shave his beard, he also lost a lot of weight for health reasons. That why they wrote him not eating enough into the show.

[plkrtn]

Things I was expecting:
1. Realising Mallory is Grace's last name
2. Spotting that the cancer in Butcher is an allegory about his attitude towards Supes, and him taking Compound V to come back at the end is all a part of that.

[dive]

I feel like the minor character acting MVP is Tilda Swinton as the octopus. I can't remember her name, but that death scene was absolutely brutal, I had a really hard time watching it, which feels like a crazy thing to say. Tilda Swinton voice acting as the Deep's lover octopus being suffocated from the other side of the door while the Deep listens. Just brutal, and so well acted for such a small part.

[plasticbutler]

I had a theory that the reason why Neuman was trying to be friends with Marie in Gen V was she was gonna use her as the scapegoat for all the head poppings.
Guess that's not happening.

[AnonUnlimited]

I think the dad plot line for hughie was actually supposed to mirror his relationship with butcher. Basically he is watching two male figures who act as role models (one for the better and the other for the worst) in his life dying. He isn't able to let go of either one, but when he tries to hold onto them it makes things worse for everyone. I think next season hughie is going to have to let go of butcher for good too.

[arthur.m]

Ryan killed both of his mother figures, my boy gave himself mommy issues. I don't quite know how to feel about him, specially when we're in countdown to the finals.

[jahipalmer]

I want them to hire a game theorist to help write for Sage in the next season. Like, I want her actions to be above my head, but then be able to understand it once the pieces are laid out for me. Genius ish, yo.

[VolvoxSocks]

I think the initial conversation between Sage and Homelander is the real set up to her plan. Homelander specifically mentions Julius Caesar when Sage talks about sweeping in to take power from chaos. Sage isn't just getting Homelander into power, she's also setting everything up to eventually take him down.

[nuvjoti]

I think a big part of Sage’s plan at the end of the finale was just getting the speaker of the house on their side so that they didn’t even need Newman. Sage probably realized that Newman isn’t all in with Homelander, and she knew Homelander did not like that Newman kept her powers a secret, so Newman would be easy to throw under the bus, thus getting the speaker of the house on their side became the key fallback of her plan.

So it wasn’t like her setting the stones but instead she made key observations and was able to dip out the episode while the plan still worked out.

[Musicmanmurrell]

The thing that absolutely kills me about the war on Christmas musical was that they got legitimate Broadway stars to record that campy little song.

[okvayno]

Shoutout Nando for making grace mallory 2 different people 😭

[comp.lex]

i wasnt a huge fan of how annie reacted to the shapeshifter situation after she escaped. annie knows how the shapeshifter had access to her memories and her thoughts, and that makes it extremely hard for anyone to tell the difference, including hughie. not to mention that he was manipulated into bed under false pretenses, essentially a form of SA, and she's talking to him as if he willfully cheated on her. the shapeshifter stole the proposal from both of them, not just from annie, and it kind of sucks that her anger is seemingly only directed at hughie.

[lukaslambs]

Probably the funniest line in the entire show for me is when Noir says “what do you mean lobotomizing herself?” to The Deep 😂

[rdomi]

I absolutely loved A-train this season. The scene in front of the hospital with the kid is probably one of my favorites in the whole series. A-trains little smile, like he finally realized what being a hero means, just felt like a really special moment and I think it worked so well