Who Could the Gloam Eyed Queen Be? - Elden Ring Lore Speculation

This is a topic I think is really neat in Elden Ring, but gets repeated dirtied by the same theories generated by the Frenzied Flame ending. We never see the creation of the shadows of an Empyrean, and assumed the rebirth of one who was flat out "defeated" instead without further context? As a lore hunter, this is red flag city. Enough to make Iosefka's imposter in Bloodborne jealous (People didn't realize it was someone different until seeing the credits in Bloodborne.). Overall, the scrutiny for a game like Elden Ring deserves shouldn't be kept so narrow sighted, especially with the lacking of evidence. This theory of Melina took off too hard and too fast for any take and was practically a first or second theory out of many worth investigating.

In this video I explain further gripes and details that can mean something drastically different, and yet back onto another familiar character. The overall complexity of details around subjects of Death in Elden Ring are outstandingly diverse, so even these are more topics for debate, but would make for pretty good story-telling.

Also, no. I won't be making any comparison theories on this as it's seemingly uncharted territory overall. I've looked and looked, and haven't made much too conclusive to back it into that direction, suggesting this is where it's truly an Elden Ring thing. Without any other notable details and events, it's virtually missing chapters and tales. Otherwise, Melina is dressed like Millicent, burned and bodiless, called the kindling maiden, and seemingly a ritualistic living sacrifice, living in the same image sort of mentality of others as tools like Marika did. A lot of things less uniformed to behavior was considered more savage and lacking in standards in her Order.

The only thing I can think of I didn't touch up on was GEQ being an "Empyrean", suggesting she would have been destined candidate for godhood. It's not understood if one must be related to Marika for this, or if their ties to their order is just effectively ripe and ready. One theory is that you must be female for this to happen, and that perhaps is where Rennala was considered tested and confirmed not a champion after all in abandonment by Radagon and the nature of the Envoys.

[davisiotta]

it seems meaningless at first, but I kind of think that the Gloam eyed Queen might have been Marika's mother...
we all kind of assume that she appeared later in Marika's reign or that she was competing for godhood with her, but the The fact that the death rune was specifically sealed shortly after the creation of the golden order makes me believe that this was the first act of Marika's reign, the golden order appears to exist and basically represent Marika's reign from the beginning, so this seems For me, long before Ranni was born or even Marika gave birth to Godwyn, the fact that it was precisely Maliketh who Marika sent makes me think that this could be before she even had Godfrey or Radagon on her side, the fact that apparently this was not having been a war and much more of a conflict just between Gloam eyed and Marika also makes me think that this may have been before she had an army or a group of followers to help Marika defeat the Gloam eyed Queen, and what makes me believe that she could have been Marika's mother is that all Empyreans seem to be from the same lineage, Miquella, Malenia, Ranni, are all in one way or another descended from Marika, the fact that Miquella and Malenia were born Empyreans by being born from a single god gives me even more the impression that the lineage has something to do with being an Empyrean, obviously someone would have to have become the first god to start this divine lineage but as we know that there were other gods and ages before Marika, I disbelieve that she was the one who started this, and what makes me think that gloam eyed was the goddess before Marika is that the death rune is obviously a fragment of the elden ring and that rune is mentioned as having been ripped from the elden ring, so how would the Gloam eyed Queen have access to this rune if it had appeared at a later point in Marika's reign? I personally believe that she had not only the death rune but also the complete Elden ring, making her a goddess, the body that may have been used to create the finger-killing dagger may not have been that of Gloam eyed's consort but rather that of Gloam eyed Queen's own body

[mfyrisingmayo]

marika had to be behind the plot of the night of black knives when ranni says 'queen marika was driven to the brink" after Godwyns death... to convey some sort of 'plan-backfiring' and she didnt know he would die. Explains why Maliketh would feel 'betrayed'