TOMBSTONE (1993) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | Reaction & Commentary

This week we're watching TOMBSTONE (1993) for the FIRST TIME! Where were you when you caught Tombstone? Does it hold up? How do we feel about my listening comprehension skills? All this up for debate and more!

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Time Codes:
00:00 - Intro
02:19- Start Watching
35:50 - Wrap it up!

[dillonsronce]

I have always considered this to Val kilmers best acting role.

[BinkyTheToaster]

In Wyatt's own words in an interview about Doc following his death in 1887, "He was a dentist whom necessity had made a gambler; a gentleman whom disease had made a vagabond; a philosopher whom life had made a caustic wit; a long, lean blonde fellow nearly dead with consumption, and at the same time the most skillful gambler and nerviest, speediest, deadliest man with a six-gun I ever knew." Seems about right, the math checks out.

[SherriLyles]

When Doc Holiday was about to die and he looked down at his feet and said "I'll be damned, " it's because he always thought he would die with his boots on. True story.

[ianjardine]

Doc is a truly tragic figure a gentleman and a scholar brought low by illness seeking joy in life's pleasures and a quick violent death before his disease could destroy him. Unfortunately his lightning reflexes and complete lack of fear meant no one was good enough to give him the ending he was looking for. Val played him beautifully.

[CChissel]

They all killed their roles, but Val Kilmer was a huge stand out, his portrayal of Doc Holiday is unrivaled and just amazing. Definitely my favorite character in this film, his one liners are majestic.

[tomking]

I’m 45 years old and I seen Tombstone when it came out in theaters with my girlfriend. I have seen it so many times that I lost count. I have read the book and screenplay many many times as well. I have original 8X10 set photos from the movie. When I moved to Los Angeles in 1997 I was in the entertainment industry until 2008. I ended up meeting Val and Kurt and got my photos autographed. Tombstone has been and will always be my favorite movie ever. It’s a masterpiece in my opinion. Val should of won a Oscar for his performance and in my opinion he was robbed of it. It’s cool watching people who are seeing this amazing movie for the first time.

[leftcoaster]

If you notice, the part where Doc says I have two guns. He not only spins each revolver in the opposite directions but does so while holding his drinking cup. Val had crazy coordination. He should have won an Oscar for his performance.

[Drummer]

Fun Fact: Billy Bob Thorton - the bully sitting at the cards table, apparently there was an issue with the writers (cant remember the hole story but the point is) the writers never wrote his character a single line so not only was this his first movie ever but he does all his own lines adlibbing. Which I got to say he held his own very well for being in a movie with such a stacked cast even if it was just a few scenes. Great Flick I remember seeing it in the theater when it came out. 👍

[victorcachat]

Val Kilmer should’ve gotten an Oscar for this.
BTW the end is the most true part.

[poolhall]

My favorite part of the film:
The Latin showdown with Doc / Ringo.
Not only does Doc clown Ringo with the cup, he copies his gun flare with 100% accuracy while shit-faced drunk.
Ringo immediately realizes that Doc is better / faster.

[mikeljenks]

“Maybe pokers not your game Ike. I know. Let’s have a spelling Bee.”, is probably my favorite line in the movie.

[stevegrohowski]

Unforgiven is an amazing deconstruction of the Western genre, but The Outlaw Josie Wales (both films star and are directed by Clint Eastwood) is an absolute classic! The scene between Josie and Ten Bears is right up there with Quint's USS Idianapolis monolog in Jaws for absolute perfectly delivered dialog.

[GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames]

The real Johnny Ringo wasn't anywhere near the blood-thirsty psycho he is portrayed as in this film. He actually was elected to the Cochise County Supervisory Board and served as a Town Marshall for a while (and was by all accounts an efficient, popular, and effective law enforcer while he served in that capacity. Modern-day psychologists have speculated that Ringo-suffered from Bipolar Disorder.

The encounter between Wyatt Earp and Johnny Tyler in the Oriental Saloon happened just the way it was depicted, including the later encounter with Doc Holliday and the casual dismissal.

Wyatt and Mattie Blaylock were never formally married, and by the time Wyatt met Josephine Marcus Mattie had run off with another man. Josephine in fact, left John Behan for Wyatt Earp.

From all accounts, Josephine Marcus was exactly as non-ladylike as depicted.

Curly Bill was acquitted of Fred White's shooting because before he died, White himself explained that he believed the shooting was an accident. Brocius used a Colt 1878 Double Action revolver, which was well known for misfiring and hangfiring. Wyatt Earp himself testified on Curly Bill's behalf to that fact.

[jp]

Many people believe that Val Kilmer deserved the Oscar that year. Here are the nominees for Best Supporting Actor in the 66th Academy Awards:
Tommy Lee Jones as Samuel Gerard in "The Fugitive"
Ralph Fiennes as Amon Göth in "Schindler's List"
John Malkovich as Mitch Leary in "In the Line of Fire"
Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape"
Pete Postlethwaite as Giuseppe Conlon in "In the Name of the Father"
Other snubs include Ben Kingsley as Itzhak Stern in "Schindler's List", Sean Penn as David Kleinfeld in "Carlito's Way", certain actors in "True Romance", etc...

[PaddieMac]

A couple of 80’s westerns that get overlooked are Silverado and The Man From Snowy River. The latter has some of the best horse riding scenes ever!

[paulmartin]

In 1994 "Maverick" with Mel Gibson is a Western/Comedy that is entirely too much fun. Not as hardcore as this but you would probably enjoy it. Great reaction to a great movie. 😄

[charlize]

Funny that Shanelle refers to "western movie tropes" -- a lot of those "tropes" about the Old West actually originated from the real history of Wyatt Earp and Doc Holladay at the OK Corral. The shootout was the most famous gunfight of the Old West, and generations of Hollywood screenwriters ripped it off for their movies. Wyatt and Doc were chronic gamblers: Doc did play an all-night game of poker with Ike Clanton the night before the shootout, and Wyatt did run a Faro table in a saloon; Doc was an extremely polite southern gentleman who was also a deadly gunfighter who carried two pistols when most westerners carried one; Wyatt was a famous sheriff who (along with Bat Masterson) helped clean up Dodge City before coming to Tombstone and was known to have a strict code of honor and hated killing people; Wyatt and Doc did go on a vengeance ride to avenge his brothers; Doc and Johnny Ringo did face off one-on-one in an epic final gunfight. All of these were real events that Hollywood made the archetype for western films for the next century.

[Caseytify]

Fun fact: the accredited director was struggling with the movie, so Russell stepped in and did the actual directing. He even cut out several pages of his own dialogue to placate the other actors.
I second those who suggested Silverado (1985) Fantastic cast, and unbelievable cinematography.
Any personal favorite is Sunset, set in late 20s Hollywood. James Garner stars as Earp giving technical advice to a movie about the OK shootout. Bruce Willis is Tom Mix playing Earp in the movie within the movie. It turns into a murder mystery, exploring Hollywood's corruption even back then.
A running gag is "That's exactly what happened. Give or take a lie or two."
Not really a western, but it does look at Earp's life in the 20s.

[jojackmcgurk]

DON'T LISTEN TO THE HATERS, YOU DON'T TALK TOO MUCH AT You are easily one of the best reactors I've seen on youtube. You talk/pause just the right amount and when you DO talk, it's almost always intelligent commentary, which is very refreshing. You're freaking awesome

[suprchickn]

No one ever talks about the fact that Moses, Charlton Heston himself, has a cameo in this film.

I love Tombstone, one of my favorite movies in any genre.

I highly recommend Open Range for another great modern Western. Great reaction Shanelle, as always!