League of Legends Falling Off

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This feels like an almost inevitable fate of games as a service.

If you keep focusing on adding content and adding new cosmetics and adding new game modes, then eventually a product that used to be concise, simple, and easy to pick up becomes bloated, complex, and obtuse.

jakehr
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Its also because players can get toxic as hell.
It's hard to get into a game where you're expected to learn a bunch of mechanics and champions as a new player, but you get bashed left and right for not knowing how to play

pikachu
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I tried getting into league. A guy sent me some videos of complex maneuvers and said "come back when you can do these" and then I didn't.

tennagon
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I think whats hard for new players is that quickplay doesnt have a level limit for its queue. Theres always multiple scenarios where a level 10 account meets level 500-700 accounts.

caspian-t
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It also doesn’t help that the community is beyond toxic. So while trying to learn the game you have people that will yell at you instead of trying to help you get better. Turns a lot of new players away.

paultelios
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on the champion numbers, league is basically the only moba i play anymore and its not because of the mechanics, its because of the variety. there are so many characters that becoming bored from playing the game over and over is not really a concern. the real issue is the lack of safeguards for new players to not get shit on over and over while trying to learn the game.

theronsneed
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All I heard was 167 characters for Arcane to pull from.

ib
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Went to the NA championship in 2022 in Chicago and me and my friends are about to enter our 30s and we were suprised there wasnt many younger people there. I stopped playing years ago thankfully

Mattznick
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Well to be fair, the tutorial is utter dogshit

As a new player you need to watch at least a minimum of 20 hours of youtube content to *barely* understand the game like roles, stats, type of damage, objectives, jungle camps, minions like the bare minimum while the 30-40 minute tutorial shows you the controls.

gorgistanojevik
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I just started league a couple weeks ago, and oh boy is it rough. I have to learn all the champions and what they can do/when they can do it, learning all the different ways to move the minion waves around to get the most value out of them, positioning vs each champ, where to ward, what all the objectives do, what to buy, then I also have to learn which champ I like playing, and then on top of that I have to usually fight an enemy team of people that have already spent enough time to already have learnt those core things..

It's rough for sure.

abaiser
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A friend and I were talking about trying league to see what it’s like. This is exactly what put us off.
Edit: Grammer

sarnem
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and playerbase overall play better now. Back in the day no one knew about splitpush in silver or what to build, or even how to play. But now new player has really high skill requirements to compete even in low rank.

staskozak
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The only way I was able to learn was from someone literally spoon feeding me information and holding my hand. I don’t wish the experience of doing it alone upon my worst enemy

muffinpandas
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This is why valorant NEEDS to stop adding agents

bot_
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Smurfs are why i just dont play. And the players defend it so hard that i just gave up.

RubysWrath
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i tried to get into league, played a few games and people kept saying i was throwing on purpose and were mad toxic for no reason so i havent played since

KaiBant
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170 characters, 1 character has somewhere between 4-8 abilities.
those can all interact is odd ways together
which means you have to memorize 700 different abilities and recognize them regardless of what gaudy skin in active. and then you have the item shop that changes every months so it’s not even worth memorizing all the teams anymore

cIoudbank
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This will be Overwatch in 10 years, and people will still say it sucks and it's bad and it's dead but play it by the millions

ten
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I stopped playing for like a year and the game was unrecognizable its insane how much they change stuff

Kieranicole
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Design by accretion. It will 100% kill any game that tries it without a form of mitigation. PoE removes older mechanics periodically while introducing new ones. Warframe is a monolithic behemoth, but you can't get into everything all at once, you have to earn each new game mode. LoL dumps you into the deep end, says 'swim, ' and then tosses you a life preserver made from solid lead.

Cybermaul