SMT Dante vs Hajun (with proof) #devilmaycry #dante #vergil #anime #debate #whoisstrongest #hajun

[hyperbladezplayz]

imagine being an omnipotent god but losing to a person with a pistol and a sword💀

[yukihno.]

based dante
this isn’t just a W video, it’s a jackpot video!

[socialbreak]

Omnipresent is a state of being which in this case doesn't matter due to SMT characters having irrelevant speed. Could also scale Dante higher but W.

[Mathe-yi]

Hajun Debunk

Singularity having infinite dimensions, concepts, platonic concepts making it only High Hyperversal.

Singularity having infinite layers making it infinite layers into High Hyperversal.

It doesn't get it to higher tier simply layers into it because Singularity doesn't have a R>F trasncendence among them where each singularity sees the previous one as fiction.

The layers into the singularity doesn't even have a higher herarchical structure The throne transcending Singularity on an inaccessible level makes it low Outerversal Taikyoku transcending the throne on an inaccessible level makes it baseline Outerversal.

Again, taikyoku doesn't have any r>f trasncendence where each taikyoku sees the previous one as fiction or has any higher hierarchical structure.

Hadou Gods with lower taikyoku and with higher taikyoku exists on a same plane and the ones with Higher Taikyoku has to fight with the lower ones instead of "transcending" already debunks it.

Someone with 90 taikyokus means he's 90 layers into baseline Outerversal and Hajun having infinite taikyokus with his tumor makes him infinite layers into Outerversal But for the fanboys let's say with the tumor he scales to High Outerversal (which he doesn't because as i said taikyoku doesn't have a R>F trasncendence)

One of the most fake feat "Hajun killed 3 boundless character with his mere fingers". But the statement itself is contradictory because Boundless means you aren't simply bounded by anything.

You being killed or being bounded by someone with higher taikyoku itself proves that you were never boundless in the first place because it denies the concept of boundless itself by acuuall meanings.

There aren't 'layers' into boundless it's a thing Hajun stans made up. It's simply boundless.

If you're boundless you can't be bounded by anything

Hajun Debunked =
Baseline Outversal - High Hyperversal.

[platinumvoid]

Being stronger than an omnipotent being makes no sense.

[maximkusanagi]

Dante's *after image* no-diffs Hajun.

[jadenmills]

Even tho Dante didn't get iq he still one of the smartest fictional characters

[that_nezuko]

SMT and MVC is canon to DMC from 23th of February 2023(Read the interview, then tell Smth)

[wolfshadow]

+rep for not just a dry explanation of who gets the point, but an explanation

[JadenYubel]

And since SMT Dante is canon, which means SMT dante = DMC 2, 4, 5 Dante but the stronger version since he has New Majin Form(Sin devil Trigger)

[nrvanna_chaos]

W edit and result but the way you scaled dante is downright horrendous

[pintfull]

As a person named after Dante by my dad I agree

[Himo_scales]

As you may already know there is a concept in the series called Taikyoku or Taiji (referred to in Dies Irae as "Atziluth") and it’s the beginning of all things, the root, original/first beginning, or beginning of all beginnings. Taikyoku is even the source of yin and yang. Taikyoku is the "Supreme Ultimate" state of limitless potential, the oneness before duality, all who have reached Atziluth have taikyoku. Atziluth is the emanation of the spirit/soul (Atman), which is beyond the dimensional framework, representing a cosmic law which repaints all of reality for themselves, in accordance with the desire of the god itself, bypassing any obstacles because taikyoku is primary in relation to any form of existence.
Beings who reached taikyoku are transcendent in relation to any form of existence, any form of information, any form of duality, any form of time-space, regardless of its complexity, or its size. Taikyoku is the root of all things and phenomena, therefore, regardless if an impact is tangible, intangible, spiritual, mental, logical, verbal, nothing can affect them. To oppose the law, you are required to possess an equivalent or greater Taikyoku value to compete on a similar playing field as the Atziluth user.
Everyone who has reached Atziluth is a walking universe (the universes are Taikyoku and therefore beyond dimensions); atoms, spirits, planets, stars, the concept of the existence and nonexistence of all this is the all-encompassing ultimate reality, which is a Hadou / Gudou god. Even a drop of Gudou God's blood weighs more than celestial bodies. The very size at the same time does not depend on the physical dimensions, from a physical point of view the universe exists "outside" them. A god with a more powerful Atman, will actually have a universe that is much "larger and deeper" than other gods.
ply physical
In reality, cutting tools carry the Laws of Cutting, there is also the Law of Burning which fire carries. Lung respiration is impossible without the Law of Water, those mundane and small things are simply physical.

It is anything but difficult. If the aforementioned law of water is taikyoku, then the entire universe will be changed into water. Alternatively, if the law of the world is frozen water, then the water that cannot be frozen, but also cannot evaporate because it is an independent Law of Domain is also Taikyoku.
前者を覇道。後者を求道。
The former is Hadou. The latter is Gudou.

One with Taikyoku conquers all Creation.
Now let’s see what Taikyoku/Taiji truly is in Chinese philosophy.
Taikyoku/Taiji is a Chinese cosmological term for the "Supreme Ultimate" state of undifferentiated absolute and infinite potential, the oneness before duality, from which Yin and Yang originate, can be compared with the old Wuji.
The Daoist classic Zhuangzi introduced the Taiji concept. One of the "Inner Chapters" contrasts Taiji 太極 "great ultimate" and Liuji 六極 "six ultimates; six cardinal directions".
The Way has attributes and evidence, but it has no action and no form. It may be transmitted but cannot be received. It may be apprehended but cannot be seen. From the root, from the stock, before there was heaven or earth, for all eternity truly has it existed. It inspirits demons and gods, gives birth to heaven and earth. It lies above the zenith but is not high; it lies beneath the nadir but is not deep. It is prior to heaven and earth, but is not ancient; it is senior to high antiquity, but it is not old Taikyoku is understood to be the highest conceivable principle, that from which existence flows. This is very similar to the Daoist idea "reversal is the movement of the Dao". The "supreme ultimate" creates yang and yin: movement generates yang; when its activity reaches its limit, it becomes tranquil. Through tranquility the supreme ultimate generates yin. When tranquility has reached its limit, there is a return to movement. Movement and tranquility, in alternation, become each the source of the other. The distinction between the yin and yang is determined and the two forms (that is, the yin and yang) stand revealed. By the transformations of the yang and the union of the yin, the 5 elements (Qi) of water, fire, wood, metal and earth are produced. These 5 Qi become diffused, which creates harmony. Once there is harmony the 4 seasons can occur. Yin and yang produced all things, and these in their turn produce and reproduce, this makes these processes never ending.
Taking Taikyoku from a philosophical, real life perspective shows how strong it really is. Most people don’t fully know what Taikyoku truly is, so they tend to downplay it. In short Taikyoku/Taiji is everything
I have Moore on discorded that proofs hajun no tumor is above tire system

[stunnagirl]

Smt literally has YHVW on their side it has the best and most broken cosmology 💀

[ElyFortune]

Smt Dante and axiom are the real dudes who can solo anime

[YuyaGR]

In ingame DMC Dante. All Dante needs to do is: Royal Guard.

[Xavier-betb]

Hajun is boundless too. Who dosent even has a limit of his power. He can erase any god's from his existence by just a blink. Hajun only used 1% of his power in anime (writer said he doesn't want to detail much in a boundless cuz he can't) hajun is beyond hyper verse and it mentioned in Google he was holding 258 universes on his hand so it's a draw

[Zoibry]

(SMT dante vs Hajun "with proof" ) and the proof is this guy is talking about dante > lucifer.

[errorb]

W. and Cosmology SMT make Dante Beyond tiering system

[sonario]

Dante in SMT is just on a completely different level. Doesn't even use DT or any equipment besides his default loadout and still takes on Lucifer like it's nothing.