Should you clip the rings or hangers??? the great debate #rockclimbing #climbing #climbinggear

[ledged_up]

I've been taught that you always clip the hangers - rings introduce multiple additional potential points of failure (each link) and puts unnecessary wear and tear on the rappelling hardware. Lift up the links and clip hangers underneath the rings, to prevent angular loading (which you're right, it can happen if you clip on top of the ring links).

[StephenSadler]

I was taught to set biners under the fixed gear. Prevents biner torque and leaves the rings accessible on top for any passing parties.

Clipping the rings just makes me uncomfortable since that’s a rope contact area.

[Salmontemaki]

Clip the biner behind the maillons to avoid it getting in the way.
By the way, wouldn’t clipping the rappel rings also get in the way of the rope?
Thanks

[LocalConArtist]

Around where I climb most anchors don’t have rings, but just chain-link on the end, so you absolutely cannot clip the last chain-link or else you or any other party can’t descend from that anchor

[MarkCrimper]

Can you also do a video on Chain anchors? This pretty common in many crags where it is just two bolt hangers and then chains. I like to have the bottom fixed gear with no gear, only leaving it for lowering or rappelling back down for the rope. Would you build your personal anchor by clipping into one of the middle or upper chains, not the bolt hanger? Might make cleaning easier. I was taught to clip your PAS directly into the bolt hanger for cleaning.

[andrewhunter]

What if you clip under instead of over the rings? Biner gets jammed when another party raps? But that isn’t a big delay or anything

[manucarcamo]

Correcto mosquetones por debajo de maillones o argollas directos a la chapa .
Generalmente cadenas y argollas son solo para pasar la
Cuerda y hacer el rapel ( de lo contrario estarías desgastando el material y afectaría a cada cuerda que pase por ahí )
Ojo !

[testboga]

I agree. After once getting a biner stuck because the rope in the ring got loaded and torqued the biner into the hanger, I'm not going to clip the hanger anymore 😅

[Red-jumi]

Do you really climb with quick release clip carabeaners?

[ncisystems]

Metal on metal in the rings, scratches the rings. Then you are going to put your rope on scratched rings. A lot of places lower on reppel rings.

Also, you need to make sure the nose of the binder isn't pointing into the wall.

In your case, wouldn't you use the quick link?

[MyMathProfessor]

It needed to be said. There's lots of otherwise opinionated people. It's annoying.

[mdbernsten]

This seems wrong. Always clip under fixed gear.

[trekkingnb]

Clip under the gear. No metal on metal where ropes go.

[olliebarker]

Absolutely nope. Rings are for ropes, not metal.