Battery Backup is BETTER than Generator Backup

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More than ever, homeowners are looking for solutions to protect themselves against blackouts. This is particularly true in California lately, where planned shutoffs by utilities to prevent forest fires have affected tens of thousands of people.

Traditionally, homeowners have looked to backup generators to protect themselves against grid outages. These days, however, modern technology has fundamentally transformed this market, and state-of-the-art batteries offer a far better alternative to home backup than generators do. 

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1: Batteries are quite: 0:49
2: Batteries are clean: 2:13
3: Batteries are small: 3:03
4: Batteries are instant-on: 3:49
5: Batteries are reliable: 4:44
6: Batteries are natural disaster-proof: 5:55
7: Batteries can run indefinitely: 6:29
8: Batteries save you money: 7:16
9: Batteries enable energy independence: 8:06
10: Batteries can be free: 8:41

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*Great **Generater.Systems** so far. We have the same brand just a little less power. This one is so much quieter then our first one. Great buy*

patrickbollingguns
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When my gas line generator kicked in they weren't mad at the noise - just jealous that my house was still glowing.

NNITRED
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Had to laugh when I read the comment left by Larry Royovitx saying he'd have to win the lottery to got the battery route. He's not far off, I have a large house. I went out for quotes. If I get the largest air cooled Generac standby generator they offer (i.e. 24K) with a turn key installation, all electrical cableing and gas trenched and buried which includes a 75 foot run of gas line and installing a 200amp transfer switch... the total bill was $12, 500. Certainly not inexpensive! BUT... the best price I got to power my home using inverters and batteries would require I win the lottery. 48 kW of power inverters, 30 kW of solar panels and a 50 kW generator would provide me with 200 kWh's of energy storage. Very nice indeed... however the price tag was a little over $150, 000. I went with the 24k generator.

eltonnoway
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This video has a lot of misinformation.
The way a battery works is basically two poles, an anode, and a cathode. electrons move back and forth from these poles as the batteries are charged and discharged.
Electrons move from anode to cathode when discharged. Then move back when charged.
However, not all come back. As we charge and discharge the battery, more and more never come back to the anode.
Each time this occurs is considered a battery cycle. Therefore all batteries have a limited amount of cycles.
A typical 18650 battery used alone can have about 500 cycles before it barely holds a charge to be viable.
A Tesla/Panasonic-developed 21700 architecture can do maybe 1000 cycles.
So depending on the size of your battery setup or power wall. it can last from 5 to 15 max 20 years with current technology.
Long story short, #7 Batteries run indefinitely is not true.
Even if a battery is not used, it only has a stand-alone shelf life of 8 years before it begins to break down or if not stored correctly.

masonlee
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We're, presently, testing these battery operated generators. Our findings are that the batteries are still not adequate for the duration of emergencies, unless you have them hooked-up to solar cells to recharge them. Gas generators meet those needs, but are dangerous to operate for people who do not know safety instructions. But no, battery generators are NOT there yet.

marsflee
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For total redundancy, the answer is you need both.
Do you think you can do you videos in front of a battery like in the garage etc. The kitchen videos have me me skip your videos but your content is good.

nawiribrahim
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Need a battery pack the size of. your garage to provide the duration of power of the generator.

James-cnno
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Just ordered a 18kw Generac and am excited to have the protection for my home. I have no idea where I would find space enough for battery banks, inverters, etc. Sorry but your attempt to pull customers to battery backup needs more work and better offers. Let the noise cannot wait.

molliesdad
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Honda generators are quiet, much more so than my Briggs Stratton. Propane hydronic furnace heats whole house and water with only one 15 amp circuit measured at 2.8 amp x120 v= 336watts. Block ice from your chest freezer will almost eliminate any need to power your refrigerator. Propane fireplaces require no electricity. DeWalt rechargeable battery flashlights or similar will provide all needed lights...

jameseverett
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There Is A Place For Whole House Battery Backup Systems But Here In Texas I Believe Most Suburban/Rural Homeowners Will Benefit More From A Natural Gas Or Propane Whole House Generator. Power Outages After A Major Storm Can Last Several Days Longer Than A Battery Backup System With Solar Panels Can Last.

TexasNightRider
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Imma tear this up. 1. 50-70 dB is NOT loud 2. Batteries are NOT clean. They are made with heavy metals MINED from the ground. 3. A battery bank with enough reserve capacity will be large. Dependent on your battery chemistry, of course. 4. Clocks need to be reset? Oh the humanity! Unnecessary stress? Come on! 5. Batteries are not infallible. They do have a lifespan. So do the other electronics required. Since he mentioned Tesla. One of their battery packs is $16k. Depending on the battery chemistry, you may have hazardous chemicals like sulfuric acid. Lithium polymer batteries can catch fire if overcharged or over discharged. If you pay someone to look inspect your generator you are wasting money. 6. He is right about natural gas powered gens in earthquake zones. They aren't a viable option. 7. Overcast/rainy day? Night? Low charge or no rate. Run your HVAC or dryer and watch your power drain. 8. Look into the startup cost of solar/wind/battery systems. The return on investment can be the lifespan of your solar panel. Then you need a new panel which puts you at square 1. 9. Some states, like Florida, mandate that you are connected to the grid for a property to be habitable. 10. Again, look to my point 8. Startup costs and lifespan. Now, I'm not saying that this is dumb or not needed. But, rather you need to evaluate you needs or be realistic about the costs and infrastructure required.

GDisco
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In the South where we been hit but hurricane have solar panels doesn’t work unfortunately

jonasschmitz
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Let’s say your power goes out for a week due to a damaging weather event and there is a lot of cloud cover. Let’s also say you want to run your HVAC during the outage, as well as your washer, your electric dryer, and everything else in your home. How long will your Power Wall last? Will it run the central air that whole time? Will it run it at all? My 24kw Generac standby natural gas generator will run indefinitely, power everything, and costs less than a backup battery system. Yes, you can hear it running in the background if you are standing near a window where it is installed. Music to my ears. Yes, there are emissions. They are TEMPORARY during an emergency. Living here in Ohio the choice is not even close.

jefft
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The moment you started talking, I asked myself if you work for a solar company. The end of the video answered my question!

I could address every one of your points, but I'll land up writing a book. I noticed you didn't address any of the drawbacks of battery. Like the fact that

* in only 10 years, batteries lose 20% of their charge capacity
* in many states, there are regulations regarding where you can place them in the house. Where I live, they insisted I put them in the garage, which I didn't want, because then I'd have to heat it to get the same level of efficiency from the batteries.
* they're great as long as the sun produces enough energy during the day to charge the batteries. Good luck if it's January in Maine when you lose power!
* they're not nearly as clean as you say they are (ask the people in the DRC, whose kids are being born with birth defects, just how clean batteries are).

A person who doesn't have an agenda recognizes that everything has its benefits and drawbacks. While I like the solar/battery storage combo, to me, it makes more sense to use your **EV** as the battery! You'd have to spend $80K worth of Tesla powerwalls to have the same amount of storage you get from, for example, a Ford F-150 lightning. You can literally buy the lightning, get the same amount of storage and get a free truck as a "side benefit".

This is a very nuanced topic that you're painting with a broad brush. Do you have net time of use metering? Does your energy provider buy back energy at the same price that they sell it to you at? DO YOU EVEN HAVE THE MONEY TO INSTALL AN EXPENSIVE SOLAR/BATTERY SOLUTION?? There are SO MANY VARIABLES that mess with the calculus when going with solar/battery that you conveniently ignore.

dontbanmebrodontbanme
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Imagine someone actually relying on this guy for valid info

ivabuttitch
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Batteries on solar are great if the solar can recharge them after they deplete in a extended outage, but no one tells you that the solar DOES NOT GENERATE when power is out!

charlesgeorge
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Dan, assuming you have about a 2000 square-foot house and you’re able to get by with minimal use (in other words you totally stop using your oven, clothes dryer, hair dryers, things like that). you can probably get by with $3000-4000 worth of LiFePO4 batteries per day. Of course if you have sunlight and a few panels to help recharge them, you can go a lot further. But it takes some doing to only pay a reasonable price, there’s absolutely NO contractors involved. DIY. See Will Prowse on YouTube for tons of ideas and info.

sethtenrec
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FOR SALE;
Huge Generac paperweight sitting in my yard. Owned 6 years but has less than 30 hours on it.

sonder
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Is this a JOKE? The cost to go with a power wall system with solar panels would be close to 40, 000 .and batteries are TOXIC

oldtimer
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Throwing this out....I still think I want a generator but I did hear about people recently in Texas that didn't get their propane tanks filled to run their generators. I guess the weather shut down all the trucks that were filling customer tanks.

justinburgan