Zuma vs Mbeki: the epic chess game that defined South Africa, from ANC to MK Party

In today’s episode, we dive deep into history. We explore the epic relationship between former presidents Mbeki and Zuma, from the earlier detention together in Eswatini to their rivalry in the ranks of the ANC and Zuma’s uktimare support of thd MK Party.

📚 Today’s Episode Features:
1. Partnership of Mbeki and Zuma
2. Rivalry of Mbeki and Zuma

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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:38 - Early life
00:08:55 - Partnership
00:19:49 - Rivalry
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Credits:

Director: Bongani Nkosi
Producer: Oratile Kekana
Production Manager: Noluthando Mkhize
DOP and Editor: Bongani Nkosi
2nd camera operator and assistant editor: Lesego Kgobe
Photographer: Bongani Nkosi
Sound: Kgothatso Senne
Social Media Manager: Oratile Kekana

About me: Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh is an author, scholar and founder of the Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh Xperience (SMWX), a digital, youth-centred current affairs platform. He holds a DPhil in International Relations from the University of Oxford and is a Lecturer in International Relations at Wits.

[neotrinityrakgajane]

This rivalry is a Netflix original. Amazing episode Sizwe.

[manimavuso]

I want to take this opportunity to appreciate and pay heed toward Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh. Great job as always

[alexemergineer]

Sizwe. Can you bring Moeletsi Mbeki. To talk about SA economic history and what should happen from 2024 going forward. ❤❤

[BoscoeAlbert]

This is the decolonization of education, I'm talking about. We are not saying we don't want to learn about WW2 etc., but to Southern Africans especially, these lessons are of the essence. Tanki Sizwe 👊Carry on my Guy 💪

[Coco-kwiv]

Thank you very much Sizwe. How I wish these two great political fathers could come together and do what is right for the love of the people and leave us with a beautiful legacy for the last chapter...

[tholwanabutelezi]

The president Mbeki and deputy president Zuma era was for real the golden era in South Africa.

[tozamilefunani]

Mbeki’s problems started when he was selected to attend the Geneva youth summit because he was already in Europe. This didn’t seat well with the likes of Hani who was in the MK camps in Lusaka and there was belief that children of senior politicians were treated better than ordinary exiles. Zuma knew that for all these years Thabo Mbeki was protected by OR Tambo hence Hani contested Mbeki in the first ANC conference inside South Africa 🇿🇦 in Durban 1991. Walter Sisulu was persuaded to accept the deputy presidency in order to avert an acrimonious contest for the position among a younger generation of leaders particularly between Thabo Mbeki, Tambo's protégé, and Chris Hani, a SACP and MK leader. Hani died in 1993, Mbeki got rid of Holomisa in 1995 who was very close to Madiba and a rising star with the ANC but didn’t understand ANC’s internal politics. Mbeki made it worse when he appointed his loyalists in BBEEE deals comrades like Saki Macozoma, Phalo Jordan, Phahad brothers, Moleketis, Trevor Manuel Smuts Ngonyamas and others.. and sidelined mostly his MK rivalries. This is the group that regrouped with Zuma and toppled Mbeki in Polokwane…

[malakiamatheus]

Well researched and packaged for us your audience.

[fortunetshabalala]

Interesting, but I couldn't help but wonder how much we do not know about what transpired behind the scenes during those CODESA negotiation years.

Who was making decisions if not the ANC itself?🤔 how Zuma and Mbeki got to be removed may just be one of many valid questions to ask about most of the decision makings of that Era...

[christinanxumalo]

Thank you Dr Mpofu. I'm eagerly waiting for you to release a book on unfiltered South African history. Our grandchildren will learn a lot from such.

[kwezilomsosonkwala]

Thank you Doc. It would be lovely to have another episode about the relationship between Uncle Ranko (Cyril Ramaphosa) and Thabo Mbeki, particularly considering the recent tensions between them. Over the past two years, Thabo Mbeki has been critical of Ramaphosa's leadership, even going so far as to label him and others as "thieves." Despite Mbeki's vocal criticisms, Ramaphosa seems to maintain a more restrained approach, perhaps opting to avoid direct confrontation with Mbeki and refraining from engaging in the strong views expressed against him. These dynmics I, are significant, especially given the history between the two men. Notably, Ramaphosa has been mentioned twice in your story: once when he replaced Mbeki, and another time when Mbeki was selected instead of him to be president. These instances suggest a complex dynamic between the two leaders, characterized by a deep-seated rivalry.

[andile]

Brilliant, Sizwe. You've become — with your team — a south african political expert in my eyes. Great coverage!!

[bejesikelela]

Can you do where Zuma And Malema work together swiping out Mbeki and where Malema turned his back against Zuma

[babalontloko]

By far two of the most polarizing figures in SA politics

[andilemxotwa]

Best years of the ANC and the country! Wonderful rendition of an amazing history of two of our favourite sons Sizwe.

[eugeniazukiswaTshetsha]

"Nanko ke uLintswalo"!!!! Comic Sizwe!!! I & We truly love you SIZWE MPOFU WALSH - yhoo you are a DeepThinker mfan'akuthi - A PURE BLESSING in the whole of South Africa. We appreciate you - UPWARD & FORWARD SMWX !!!

[unathimichaelmxaku]

Thanks Sizwe broer, very important topic for SA and the timing is 👌.

[clintonleeuw]

Love this…
Please do more. There are more South Africans that don’t know this than do! Thank you for this

[Dr_RisimatiMathye]

My good Doc_ This high intellectual deduction of facts and clarity is superlative! Your high-level sequencing of facts is so unparalleled! I don't know how many times I watched this upload!🙌🌟🙌_ We need to hear more of this! Blessings 🙌

[MalibongweNombande]

Dope history lesson as well as a great contribution to the writing of our history and narrative. Thanks Hlubi.