What IS Kris's Plan? | DELTARUNE Theory / Analysis

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Many theories have been crafted about what exactly Kris's scheme is at the end of Chapter 2. Many of them have been pretty crazy, but what if there's a simpler explanation to all of this?

Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
1:41 - Subscribe for a video like this EVERY WEEK!
1:58 - What does Kris do at the end of Chapter 2?
2:41 - The Situation from Kris's Perspective
3:11 - Why Kris brings Susie and Toriel into the Dark World
4:51 - But what about the police?
6:01 - Totally 100% real ending to the video
6:14 - What is up with the TV?
7:03 - Explanation #1 - Spamton
8:18 - Explanation #2 - Aid from Kris's favorite characters?
9:04 - Thanks for Watching!
9:10 - Shoutout to TigerShark859! (Go check them out!)
9:35 - Concluding Thoughts
10:03 - The REAL ending to the video

CREDITS:
Thanks to @tigersharkmaxwell for inspiring me to make this video with their own theory video!

[MysticSlime]

One big thing I'd like to clarify that I see keep popping up in the comments: saying that Kris is an elementary student late into the video was a mistake LOL. I noticed it about 3 days into editing, but I simply thought "eh nobody will watch to the end so it'll be fine". Thank you to all of you guys who actually DID though, and you're completely right; Kris is most likely a middle-high school student, not elementary.

[misuutira]

I wonder if the reason Kris decided to turn on the TV is that a TV-themed Dark World is much less intrusive than a Dark World centered around their home life. Kris has a history of withholding highly personal information from the Player. Whether it's their brother's internet search history or details about the state of humankind, Kris goes out of their way to make sure that the Player doesn't know their history and their relationships. I can only imagine the type of world that would manifest with everything that the Dreemurr family has been through (Asgore and Toriel's separation, Asriel going to college, Kris's insecurities about not being a monster, etc.). With this in mind, a TV Dark World seems a lot more standard than a Dark World ruled by, say, the Bouquet of Flowers that Toriel threw in the bin symbolizing her animosity towards Asgore.

[jahmocha]

Here's an idea: If Kris didn't turn on the TV, the Darkners generated by the Dark Fountain will most certainly be made from the objects in their house. Sooo, after the fountain is sealed and they are encouraged to bring the Darkners to Castle Town, they would basically be throwing away their entire kitchen, living room, and maybe more. BUT, with the TV on, the new Dark World can possibly be generated based on TV channels instead. So, all they would be getting rid of in the end is an old TV that they barely use. A much more reasonable sacrifice.

[psychopomp]

Personally, I don’t think that Kris opened the front door in order to let the police in. After all, Kris and Susie’s entrance into the supply closet and computer lab Dark Worlds have shown that the door to a room containing a Dark Fountain need not be left open in order for Lightners to walk inside.

Rather, I think that Kris decided to open the door in order to make it seem like the Knight had snuck in while everyone was asleep, created the Dark Fountain, and quickly fled the scene. This will help to draw unwanted suspicion away from them.

As for why they turned on the TV, I think you’re pretty spot on. If they’re going to secretly and impulsively create their own Dark World, why not spice up their adventure by bringing in a cast of quirky characters characters from TV?

[Yuti]

One thing we can say about Snowgrave is that it’s hard to see what Kris thinks about that route, or how it affects Kris
Also, Kris does know about the light world changing the dark world, since if you interact with the Ferris wheel poster in the library after closing the fountain, Kris thinks about how their day would’ve been different if a different poster was there

[hearteyedracoon]

9:55 small nitpick/"correction" : When first meeting Queen Susie outright says that they're not children and Queen replies with "teeneger are merely bigger children" so depending on your point of view this either heavily implies or outright confirms that Susie and Kris are teenegers. The elementary class in the school could possibly be explained with the town possibly being small enough to justify a mixed grades school

[ARTable]

During the entire course of Chapters 1 and 2, Susie is shown to be the more independent of the gang...she doesn't listen to our orders initially and only comes around when things get serious with Lancer. None of our actions solidify Kris' friendship with Susie...it was Kris' attempt to defend Susie from King that caused her to call Kris her friend. In turn, Susie starts listening to Kris and treating them like their best friend the very next day. Susie in turns enables the use of the "ACT" command for party members, confusing Ralsei but enabling us to "defeat" the boom box crew via dancing. Of all their friends, Kris clearly trusts Susie the most and despises our control, so much to the point that they're willing to rip us our of their body to their potential harm and risk death in order to gain freedom somehow(Spamton notes their desperation at one point in Chapter 2). It's evident that Kris planned this as early as the end of Chapter 1 as early Chapter 2 if you go into the bathroom, it says "it's not time to wash your hands yet" hinting towards the ending of Chapter 2, creepily mind you now I think about it. Kris played along and let things play out as they would for this chapter and then made their move at the end, trapping their Mom and Susie along with them. Tori and Susie are not individuals that can be so easily manipulated like poor Noelle. This, in my mind, is a call for help. Even if you take the initiative and try to tell Office Undyne, they don't believe Kris for a second. Kris wants their life back...so if they have to create a Dark World in their living room to do it, so be it. So, at the end of Chapter 2, Kris slashes their Mom's tires to keep Susie around...which causes Tori to think there's a prowler about and calls the police later on. Kris, Susie and Tori go to sleep later on. Kris wakes up, opens the door, turns the TV on, looks at Susie for a sec and opens the fountain. This is not a third party controlling Kris. This Kris in desperation mode trying to get us to give up control and expose the threat of the Dark Worlds.

[toastedacorn]

Toriel does actually notice Kris acting weird, once you get the ball of junk to bring back to hometown you can go down and hear a conversation between toriel and alphys where toriel is asking if alphys notices anything different about Kris

[AlmightyDoubleHelix]

If TV characters end up becoming darkners Kris will probably end up carrying the TV to the school closet on their head

[glumbortango]

Worth mentioning, Dialogue on the TV shows it was only plugged in during the ending of chapter 1, so the second theory is questionable if Kris doesn't know how to even make a dark fountain yet. Something far stranger is going on here.

[benwaffleiron]

my first guess for kris turning on the TV was to give the player a challenge; if we dont have a boss to fight or to lead and organize the enemies we fight, we might just be able to quickly cruise on through to the fountain and close it without any resistance, giving toriel and susie less time to find out something is wrong with kris, and decreasing the chance that toriel realizes it isn't a dream

...given how chapter 1's cliffhanger was resolved though, maybe it is just to bring susiezilla to life

[Mark-fctu]

There's one theory floating around that says the point of the weird route is to make Noelle as strong as possible by getting rid of various hometown residents so that Noelle has nobody to lean on, like Undyne.

[erky]

Toby is a great trolling creator he can do anything to start at ch3

[zeo]

8:00
I actually am inclined to believe Ralsey is much more involved in talking Kris into creating the Dark Fountains than it appears.

Yes, Ralsey is scared about unleashing too much darkness and the, , Roaring" presumably but he is VEEERY upfront about wanting you to befriend everyone and bring them to his own Fountain to rule over(not in a malicious way probably).

It's possible that during the cutscenes between Ral and Kris we don't see Sey explains about the importance of making more fountains and bringing Darkners together in his world.
If that is the case it makes much more sense why Kris would make the 2 fountains we know were made using Determination and the Knife (the Librarby and TV worlds).

Also don't forget Ralsey was alone for the duration between Chapter 1 and 2 before he specifically asks YOU to bring the toys from the Light World classroom to his World - yes in-game time it may have been only a day but for him it may have seemed more(it is used as a joke about game development but I won't be surprised if time passes differently in the Dark and Light World) .

[rion]

So, I agree totally with all of this. Kris is NOT a bad kid, and they want strong people like Susie, Toriel and the police around to help. (They also even try and talk to the Mayor about it). And I don’t think their actions are being “controlled” by anyone without their soul (and, in fact, I do believe the red soul IS theirs; but because we are possessing it, the only way for them to be free is to rip it out, (which takes a shit tonne of determination if you think about it), but that makes them weak and zombie like. Which, obviously tearing out your soul would do that).

However, while I don’t think there is a third entity INSIDE of Kris, there is definitely at least a third entity “pulling the strings” of this story.

If evidence is to be believed, Gaster seems to be the one who actually linked us, the player, to Kris’ soul (unless the person who discarded our creation was another _different_ entity, then THAT character was the one who linked us).

There is also Ralsei, or as I like to think of them, the Dungeon Master of this story. There’s how they keep trying to keep things “on schedule, ” (their own schedule? Someone else’s schedule?) And how they try to talk to Kris alone at least once a chapter, and get distressed when they can’t do so during Snowgrave.

So I think there is definitely more going on here than meets the eye. Also, I just find it so fascinating (and heartbreaking) how Susie is the one character with basically no idea of the sinister undertones of this story. And how she and other lighteners can’t remind you or tell you what buttons to press, unlike other Darkners such as Ralsei and Lancer.

Also! Regarding the fact that “Kris hasn’t met Spamton in the Snowgrave Route, ” and hence “can’t want to find out more about Mike in all timelines.” . . I think that is false. Because we are forgetting one thing: time travel and the nature of saves. This aspect may not be the focus of the games thus far, like they were in Undertale, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t an _aspect._ Also, a lot of the “Deja Vu” Undertale characters exhibit is from the fact that you are a “new character” to them and also may have killed them, which are both aspects not present here. What’s to say that Kris _doesn’t_ remember all the versions you did? So will always want to know more about Mike? I will say this IS just a theory tho. :P

And one more, slightly off topic, thing but: I’ve been really curious about what happens if you have both an active “Pacifist” AND “Genocide” run present? Via your three save files? Does this affect anything? Like how the Genocide run “ruins” any pacifist runs you may try to complete thereafter? Food for thought.

[slimeinabox]

Or maybe Kris was testing if dark worlds really are influenced by outside objects when created?

[NightSprinter]

Here's the thing: remember that the Dark World is also considered a place of fantasy and the imagination. To create what Kris is making, it would take incredible levels of imagination and will to turn the fantasy into reality. It also gives a smidge of credence to how Lancer remembers things as a card, given he travels in Kris' pocket.

[g_]

What really interests me about Kris’s plan is that it seems to have been planned before we even enter the Cyber World. That morning, checking the sink yields the text “It is not yet time to wash your hands, ” and the TV is plugged in, despite not being plugged in for a long time. This leads me to hypothesize that Kris had this idea during the night between Chapters 1 and 2, as that’s when the flavor text changes, possibly when doing whatever they were doing in addition to eating pie.

This yet raises more questions, such as whether Kris learned this from an outside source, or perhaps even by Ralsei in the offscreen segments.

Furthermore, someone a while back discovered that the TV static noise is actually a distorted and slowed track of Entry 17’s mus_smile, raising concerns about Gaster and his potential, if at all existent, relationship with Kris. [Edit: this is merely apparent; I have no personal verification, but a source does exist in the comments.]

I’m just kinda just throwing out ideas here; your explanation about Snowgrave seems to make sense. Good work; looking forward to more!

[pedroivog.s.]

That moment still gives me CHILLS. If all that effect was for nothing I'm gonna be really upset

[niog]

I've seen a lot of people say that Kris never puts their soul back so that they be free from it for at least a little bit, but if you remove the layer of smoke by modding, it shows that Kris DOES put their soul back.