Inflated Bird Flu Statistics

[shawnpitman]

Just take a look at how they deal with this bird flu and remember that when push comes to shove, to them you're just another chicken.

[charlesburkhart]

The government has had no incentive to look for a farmer friendly test or solution.

[nopers]

Here in Virginia Beach over 300 birds were put to sleep just because a Canada Goose that MIGHT have had the bird flu landed in an enclosure. Let that sink in..

[jerryrigsit]

Or we're focusing on the wrong problem? Inflated numbers results in inflated costs. Also leads to more money in CEOs pockets.

[IAmGigaPanda]

I’m a medical lab scientist who actually performs the tests you’re discussing in this video at hospitals. PCR testing for the flu is by and large the most sensitive (accurate/precise) and cost effective version of that test. In people, we can use rapid swab tests that are less sensitive, because even if a false negative or positive pops up, the swab testing isn’t a life or death decision. The doctor then will be the one to determine if that patient result is indeed reflective for that patient’s symptoms. For a chicken farm, by the time the test even reaches the lab in the first place, any potential pathogen has bounced from chicken to chicken. Then, if you HAVE to make a decision to cull a chicken, that decision should be based on the most accurate answer right? If you had to individually swab and perform a 15 minute test on numerous birds for the same thing you’d see a bunch of positive and negative chickens. If you only culled the positive chickens, then those negative chickens would still have the bird flu because the swab testing isn’t accurate enough to catch all the positives within the flock. You would likely never eradicate bird flu from your flock if you culled on an individual basis. Even PCR testing is not a 100% guarantee (it’s about 92% accurate for most tests) so PCR testing ALSO would not be able to test individually. It would suck to spend a bunch of money testing and killing chickens only to find out you didn’t solve your problem. Then, your farm would lose its reputation as customers would view you as a disease factory instead of a chicken farm. So, the only true economic answer would be to test with the most accurate test, then cull the whole flock. I didn’t even mention that it’s possible to have the flu but be asymptomatic (to be a carrier) in my examples.

EDIT:
I forgot to mention. If we get a positive test on a swab (or other screening tests) in HUMANS, we will then perform a PCR test to CONFIRM that positive depending on what’s being tested. This is usually reserved for more serious pathogens like C. Diff or Shigella or H. Pylori with life threatening potential. So, even humans get PCR testing AFTER screen tests like swabs.

[MajorIllustration]

All of the gain of function research is to require vaccines for all domestic animals and humans.

[tiptoeurchin]

I'm no expert, so I asked my old man about some of this stuff. He's a veterinarian. But he works with cattle and pets, not chickens, just for context. He explained that because it can spread so quickly and has now shown the ability to not only jump species but can be transferred to mammals, it's been found in dairy cattle, it shouldn't be treated like something subclinical or less infectious. He agreed that testing should be done much differently than it is currently, but he is of the opinion that mass culling when found is the best option for now. He thinks that once detection, treatment and prevention becomes more reliable then the mass culling would no longer be necessary.

[godsvendetta]

The bird flu that only affects one bird

[Matt-kllh]

😂. “Doubt is uncomfortable, while certitude is insane, ” Voltaire.

[mistyglenn]

Dude you are doing some hard sciencing (not a word 😂). You always put forth a compelling argument and cogent position. Good on you. Keep it up.

[logan]

Don't forget the giant pharmaceutical companies pushing to vaccinate all poultry, giant farms and homestead flocks....reminds me alot of 2020😂

[Pheminon]

We also bought $1 Billion worth chickens and eggs from Egypt

[GuillotineQuene]

That's the same thing they pulled w/ Covid

[Smithcaraid]

People are beyond help. Get easily emotional when they don't agree with the facts being spoken. Tax payers foot the bill to farmers when they mass slaughter their chickens all because of either 1 or 2 infected birds. Then we foot the bill again when it comes to purchasing the eggs.

[csnow]

I never understood why they don't quarantine rhe indected, or non-infected, and watch for spread. Granted, I don't raise birds, but it never made sense to wipe out whole flocks of otherwise healthy animals. Are they carriers once they come in contact even if they don't get sick? Also, the close proximity and lack of contact with another "source" of the disease is pretty suspicious. Years of decimating domestic flocks of chickens, ducks, even ostrich has not stopped the spread. Something smells fishy with the whole thing.

[Confident_Elephant]

Crispr testing and direct antigen testing while faster WAYYY less reliable and is not as sensitive as PCR, i say that as someone who actually works with these tests on a sldaily basis

[TrumpTownGuyana]

I just cut down on eggs. There are other healthoer breakfast options like Greek yogurt and peanut butter

[Karls_chickens]

Thank you!!
I want to know why they are only treating egg birds this way and not meat birds. Eggs have skyrocketed, but chicken has only gone up a little. Sounds like they are trying to force the increase of one of the cheapest and more reliable forms of protein.

[B.E.Greatful]

Billions of chickens not thousands Billions with a B

[ChrisL.-pzcb]

Everything you just said is exactly how covid went down. Remember that.