New JWST Observation Suggests the 13.8 Billion Years Big Bang No Longer Makes Complete Sense

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Until only about two years ago, astronomers thought that the first galaxies developed within massive halos of dark matter. However, a recently discovered galaxy--estimated to be around 13 billion years old--unexpectedly formed much earlier than this process should have allowed. Yes, the James Webb Space Telescope has discovered an enormous galaxy in the early
universe that defies the standard model of cosmology.

The galaxy: known as ZF-UDS-7329, contains more stars than the Milky Way, despite forming just 800 million years after the universe began.

But galaxies like the Milky Way are believed to take about 1 to 2 billion years to form. So does this suggest that this galaxy formed without the influence of dark matter contrary to the standard model of galaxy formation?

[beecnulr]

At this time, I can say is the JW telescope is worth every penny spent.
I congradulate the many who designed, engineered, built and launched this incredible scope.

[OpenWorldRichard]

We just have to realise that the universe is much much older than we think. The JWST is not looking back to the beginning of time. The JWST is looking out to the furthest observable distance which is constrained by the expansion of space at 14 billion light years.

[josephpacchetti]

Text books will have to be rewritten, There is no telling what we will see from the JWST 👍👽

[TexJester-noth]

I'm beginning to think the Big Bang was a localized event (a SUPERsupermassive black hole) in an infinite universe. I think the JWST will find stars/galaxies that are 15-20 billion years old before they get a better telescope that'll find artifacts 40 billion years old ....

[SonOfTheDawn]

This is an outstanding find. Science is always improving as new data is found. When it's challenged it's improved and brings about new questions.

[Wordshine]

@1:47, Unless we can accurately measure the speed of light everywhere in the Universe we do not know if the speed of light is a constant or not. The only thing we actually know is a speed that is claimed to be an average for the speed of light as measured near the Earth. Many people do not understand Relativity. Other factors, such as gravity, affect the speed of light. The speed of light is relative to those other factors, such as gravity, the density of the quantum vacuum (which is compressed by gravity and mass), other mediums the light travels through such as large bodies of dust and gas in space or glass, etc.

[ronaldkemp]

In the books I published in 2021, before the JWST was launched I said the telescope would find old, fully grown galaxies as far as it's able to see. I even said some of the galaxies would be larger than our own Milky Way because in 2004 I had determined Einstein's look-back time prediction was flawed. Telescopes can no more look into the past than microscopes can look into the future. Sure enough, the JWST is finding at the edge of the observable universe galaxies are too old, too bright and fully mature, just as I wrote in the first book titled SECRET UNIVERSE : GRAVITY by RON KEMP.

[jakell]

Never been comfortable with the BB model because it's based on extrapolation into an unknown environment, humans love to extrapolate but after while this just becomes hubris. The BB is like the end of the rainbow, we can conceive and perceive it, but we can't go there, either physically or mentally.

There is a useful alpha point though that we can use - the point of the emergence of the Cosmic Background Radiation is real enough. Let there be light!

[Puzzoozoo]

As the JWST looks deeper they'll find older galaxies, and will have to accept that there was no big bang and the universe as a result is older then the 13.8 billion year model. You heard it here first.

[tjkoker]

I'm beginning to believe that a super massive black hole, or a derivative of such, "punched" through from an older, alternate universe pulling a few galaxies along with it and acting as a "Universe Starter". Sounds as plausible as some of the other theories being bandied about. Cheers!

[MrWascalwabbit]

Some of us have said for many years that there are several very solid reasons that the big bang does not make sense .

[AksilRebis]

I say cosmologists can't see the forest for all the trees.

[davidthomas]

Will we ever really understand how things started 🤔

[bill-gb]

Light travelling is an outdated concept. It doesn't travel anywhere. JWST is showing the hubristic human just how much he doesn't know about anything. Just guesses based on observations.

[garykaplowitz]

Why are theae astrophysicist still clinging to a 13.8 billion year big bang time-line, assuming that star formation was faster in the early universe rather than consider it occurred much earlier?

[jerrypolverino]

Once upon a time, just a few hundred years ago, the standard model of cosmology was crystal spheres with the Earth at the center of the universe.

[thekingofmojacar]

Can a massive, quiescent galaxy like ZF-UDS-7329 theoretically form at z ∼ 11?
The details of galaxy formation within dark matter halos are complex, but a constraint can be set, since the abundance of the most massive halos decreases sharply with a strong red-shift.
The apparent formation of ZF-UDS-7329 at such an early stage indicates significant problems with our current paradigms of early stellar populations and galaxy formation.
It may even violate the fundamental constraint that dark matter halos are sufficiently massive halos, this means that dark matter cannot be properly detected.
Also, this incredible galaxy discovery makes little sense for a Big Bang model, galaxies in such an advanced mature condition require at least 2 - 4 billion years of evolution time and are also the result of significant merger processes.
It is therefore high time to correct the textbooks, either to abandon the big bang model or to significantly increase the age of the universe (to at least 18 billion years or maybe even much more), probably both factors have to be corrected... ☄ 📡 🔭

[kwaki-serpi-niku]

Time is a construct. To say that the universe is 13.8 billion years old or 17 quadrillion years old is meaningless because that entire statement is based off of a unit that has no meaning outside of human existence.

[scarr]

Simple solution, the big bang happened much earlier !!

[tomgould]

How can we get a map of the CMB if the reionization of the universe happened after the universe cooled? In these videos, they claim that the universe was opaque before the reionization. So, how do we get the CMB map?