The BRUTAL TRUTH: How MMA Is Destroying Traditional Martial Arts

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Ever wondered why many traditional martial art systems gets utterly destroyed by different mma fighters? It isn't necessarily the traditional martial art system that is faulty itself. It's more than just that. Many if not most traditional martial art fighters get destroyed mma fighters simply because of these reasons we will talk about in this video. These missing practices and principles in traditional martial arts are honestly what it needs to revive itself. So we will discuss the shortcomings and solutions of what traditional martial arts needs to do in the midst of this mma controversy in this video.

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Do you think traditional martial arts is dying? Feel free to briefly explain.

BuildingPhysiques
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Traditional martial arts isn't dying. Schools that don't pressure test students are dying. Sparring was a huge part of traditional martial arts back in history.

LordReginaldMeowmont
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Sparring IS a simulation of a fight, but people tend to forget that sparring is a teachable moment and it brings both fighters together. I prefer light sparring because I don’t want to risk any serious damage like CTE, but I like hard sparring because I like being pushed to my limits. But I agree with your take on sparring.

josiahbholahillaire
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Like Icy Mike said, “be great at one thing, and good enough at everything else to funnel someone into that one thing”

MikeThaKnight
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Sparring for me, is the most important aspect of martial arts. You need it to truly improve.

RobertoTheGreat
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Traditional martial arts aren’t dying.

Teaching traditional martial in a useless way is dying. And for my taste it can’t die fast enough.

dennit
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I've been boxing for 15 years and are sparring partners for people who compete. I started learning Wing Chun recently and have taken a few useful things from it:
- when fighting on inside, I will sometimes trap people's hands and use sticky hands to maneuver my fists to gain center line and punch to sternum or belly, which then gives my uppercuts as well.
- sometimes I punch through the high gaurd by not turning my fist (thumb facing up so the punch is thinner) which catches the opponent off guard, and sets up my other punches.

When I watch roberto Duran fight on the inside, the way he wrestles for the inside position is very wing chun-like.

Of course it's not 100% true wing chun, but I draw a lot of inspiration from it. And if course I can't use it all the time. Need a good boxing foundation first

notablemind
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The vast majority of TMAs haven't been authentically "traditional" for at least a century. Repeated, short bouts of unscripted, non-compliant, hard contact sparring, about 2/3 real world speed was once the norm. Return to it. We now have quality protective gear.

The-Contractor
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The word Traditional, involves the act of following or conforming...in reality everything evolves.
A punch is a punch, a kick is a kick and no art owns any technique, it's a trained body moving in space.

owenlightbourne
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I lived in China for about two years to train full-time with various teachers. The main issue is the lost of understanding the traditional "meta". Sparring always frames itself arrow a certain meta, the game within the the game of what you are trying to achieve. If you're applying a kickboxing meta, then you'll be trying to get in shots, If its jiu-jistu you'll be trying to get the submission, in judo the throw, in MMA its usually a mix of the kickboxing and the jiu-jistu meta where you switch between getting strikes in and wrestling for submission.

So sparring is only good to train a certain meta, or fighting mentality. The issue is that very few people today can teach you a traditional meta or fighting mentality. Wing Chun for instance can not be applied with a kickboxing meta or jiu-jitsu meta, so if you learn Wing Chun moves but don't learn the meta where those moves are useful then you wont know what your doing in a fight.
Karate for instance is usually actually kickboxing, because the Japanese took the Karate movements from Okinawa but not the Karate meta, they learned the fight meta from the French kickboxing, so the Japanese Karate meta is actually like a bareknuckle Savate meta. Martial arts like Karate and Silat that have their origin in the larger Chinese martial arts culture and originally operate according the the fighting meta of southern Chinese schools (wing chun, white crane, bak mei etc.). The fighting method is based on achieving position and contact before expressing power at short range. This is typical for Chinese martial arts. The meta or mentality is like this: "I want to get a point of balance close to you before hitting you with my whole body force. In order to get close safely, I will use initial attacks, smothering, grasps and deflections in order to get my balance in a place that undermines my attackers balance, then I will strike with my whole body force."
Its hard to put into words, but hopefully the point comes across that there is a certain mentality with Chinese origin martial arts and traditional martial arts in general that you have to learn and develop through diverse methods of training if you want to apply the historical arts. Thank you.

rojcewiczj
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Traditional martial arts were meant to fatally injure, incapacitate or kill the opponent which is why it doesn't generally work as well under modern rules. But taking specific aspects of traditional martial arts and combining it with modern fighting styles that's the way to keep those martial arts alive

LunaticStruggler
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I came face to face with this same concern. I'm predominantly a wing chun practitioner. But, having sparred with other martial artists from different backgrounds traditional and modern I felt I was lacking in my ability to possibly fight. So, from there, I learned a little boxing, muay thai, and bjj. Nothing to make me stand out perse'.

It wasn't until I started working at a bar that I realized the validity of learning everything I did. Having a bar fight here and there or escorting a guy out because he's getting handsy with the shot girl and his buddies try swarming you in the parking lot can teach a lot about fighting. I've been fortunate enough to have always come out on top with minimum damage.

Through my personal training, I've found boxing, muay thai, wrestling, and bjj in wing chun. Not just in technique but, in concept. There are so many similarities.

I'm now hyper-focused on improving my wing chun skill. This kind of in-depth study will carry over to Boxing and Muay thai and then finally to BJJ or possibly Judo with the sole focus of being capable of defending myself.

thebladedwind
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Great video! I think it’s the style as taught to and envisioned by the instructor. I’m a second degree blackbelt in ITF TDK, and my school did lots of sparring, and even had sparring with takedowns on some nights. My instructor was good and saw some of the limitations of TKD and addressed them, even in a limited way. After years of training in different MMA gyms, I’ve learned a lot and have been able to adapt to the styles while also keeping the ability to do some TKD play.

davidfields
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Question: what is some advice you would give to someone going from a weapons based combat sport (kendo, fencing, silat-stick-fighting) to an unarmed combat sport. I know I'm not going to be able to carry a bokken or a shinai around with me so I don't want to be disadvantaged if push came to shove.

wolfheartdarnell
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Sparring is necessary for self-development, but in a control environment under a supervision of a veteran teacher, but more importantly, take what is useful for you. Make what works for YOU is super vital.

NYKgjl
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Muay Thai, boxing and wrestling is a traditional martial 🤔

rixd
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I agree with sparring the same people. You need variety to really test your abilities.

JT-mdke
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In order to keep traditional martial arts alive we need to create tournaments with rules that favor traditional martial arts techniques.

MT-xudh
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the issue is that apparently combining styles used to be considered "disrespectful" to the different schools not so long ago. have you seen the manga "kenichi"? the MC combines Jujitsu with Muay Thai with Kenpo with Karate, BUT the thing is that he is a rare fighter. ALL of his masters practice only ONE martial art.And that story was written between the late 90s and the early 2010s. Even now MMA is not such a big thing in Japan, Thailand or China. The many different schools refuse to combine their styles

andrams
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thank you for talking about this discussion, and also not just respecting other martial arts majors, but talking about its problems and saying the solutions to revive it, because there are many martial artists who just don't respect other martial arts majors not saying everyone, it's just about respecting different opinions

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