John Mearsheimer refuted? Don't Underestimate the China-Russia-Iran Axis | Niall Ferguson

John Mearsheimer, speaking at CIS in 2023/24, argued that foolish U.S. policies, such as NATO expansion, has just pushed Russia closer to arch-rival China. In a multipolar world, the U.S. should recognise its limits to power and reorder strategic priorities away from Ukraine and Israel and focus more on Asia to deal with a far more important China threat.

Niall Ferguson, addressing the 2024 CIS Consilium on the Gold Coast, disagrees: the U.S. failed to deter an expansionist Putin, and the U.S. and its allies, such as Australia, face an axis of China, Russia and Iran. If Washington wants to contain China effectively, the U.S. needs to keep in check Russia and Iran.

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[CISAus]

What should the USA do about Russia, China and Iran?

[zubinix]

The Axis of Evil invaded and killed over 1 million people in Iraq. We are talking about the same countries right?

[Psykologisss]

It is very difficult to identify arguments in Nialls speech here. Fragmented without real substance.

[moonlitsky]

He says Hezbollah fires missiles to kill many Israelis, leaving out that israel killed 2, 000 Lebanese civilians in a few weeks. Meirshaehmaer doesn’t do that. He doesn’t mock or belittle, he explains why the parties do what they do.

[ahmmustafakamal]

It’s very pathetic to bring a comedian to rebut someone as brilliant as John Mearshimer.

[barumbadum]

Mearsheimer is superpower comparing to Niall and other Nialls

[КлимТаин]

"Ukrain is bargain. They do the fighting. They do the dying"- Nial Ferguson

[peterabild]

It’s strange that some of these experts always must insist that the other expert is completely wrong.
To say that NATO expansion has nothing to do with the war in Ukraine while not only Mearsheimer but also Burns, Merkel and Sarkosy all said already in 2008 that Russia would see it as declaration of war. Sure Putin also has imperialism on his mind and sure the withdrawal from Afghanistan encouraged Putin and sure some people in Ukraine wanted to join EU but not NATO. Many reasons combined caused the war but for sure the NATO expansion was the main reason. Furthermore to blame the Democratic Party for everything seems like election propaganda.

[miabrandt]

"wes Brot ich ess, des Lied ich sing" ... "whose bread I eat, whose song I sing"

[zactianne]

I'm surprised that someone so intellectual can be so clueless about the the global political evolution that's happening in the Near East and Far East, or does he just know which side his bread gets buttered on.

[arthurhughes]

Prof Mearsheimer doesn't have to read his presentation! He knows what he's talking about... unlike Niall Ferguson who is just a pompous talking head.

[voskoff]

This guy is a mouth peace for the forever war of the neocons but with sprinkles on top

[Avigkit]

He cites bill burns on China, but ignores bill burns “nyet means nyet” position re nato expansion

[tnndll]

FERGUSON predicted Putin would invade in 2022, while Mearshimer said he would not.

[no_humbug]

Cringingly bumptious, so pleased with himself, dangerous, celebrity historian Ferguson!

[FarTooFar]

Mearsheimer believes everything Putin says with utmost credulity. He's just coasting on his reputation from the 60s. The russobots here pretending he's still relevant are truly pathetic.

[AlanCzajkowski]

Niall Ferguson claiming that USA is defending democracy in Ukraine (one of the most politically corrupt nations in Europe) and Israel (where the government has declared the nation to be exclusively a Jewish state, effectively second-classing anybody non-Jewish) ... is pure comedy

[stevebashir]

This argument is weak and contrived. It's not realistic. Mearsheimer's argument is much more realistic.

[moonlitsky]

Harvard and Stanford don’t mean much after this

[SergioNavasDigital]

I really wanted to see a refutation, but when he says the US is "protecting the security of democracies in Eastern Europe and the Middle East" I can't just follow it any more...