PRIVATE VS PUBLIC HEALTHCARE

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Well said Brittlestar - clear, concise, logical and with a touch of humour (the usual Canadian approach) and the analogy to libraries was right-on.

assessor
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Well said!
Quebec’s public system is in crisis because it paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars hiring healthcare workers from the private system to cover the burnout of our wonderful doctors & nurses. If the workers train and end up in the private system rather than public, then we lose.

girlandherguitar
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Speaking as someone who wafted away from a flatulent market some years back, I agree

derekp
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Private health care means paying for the good surgery, or living with the negative after effects of the ohip covered surgery. Too bad if you can't pay; you get worse care, plain an simple. That's where healthcare in Canada is headed. America is not the model to follow; it provides the least care for the most money.

rkgki
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“Private Healthcare” is more of an advertising gimmick.

A better term would be Illness Profit Sector.

NYexpatriot
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Let’s just look at the privateLy run elder care homes that had all of the problems? Hmmm
Pretty scary.

This video...spot on!

highspiritsfarm
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What we lack is personnel and that’s on provincial governments and the people who manage healthcare workers. Governments: should work together for common standards so people qualified in one part of Canada are qualified everywhere; and should streamline all the healthcare professionals trained and experienced in other countries. All the other commonwealth countries do it while we waste all that potential working retail or driving cabs. The qualifications tests are rarely offered and can cost thousands of dollars, and after a doctor has passed them all they still have to do a residency as if they were fresh out of med school. Offer the written tests frequently and cheaply, and if the candidate has passed them and has experience, have them job shadow 2 practitioners in their field for 6 weeks each so they can see any differences in Canadian standard practice (mostly, in honesty, what forms to fill out) and hire them! There are thousands of qualified doctors in Ontario alone, and more nurses. Then there’s how healthcare staff, especially nurses, are treated by managers. Hospital units are deliberately understaffed to save money, leading to mandatory overtime, terrible schedules leave nurses exhausted and uncaring, pay is lousy and no one has changed any of this in the face of a pandemic. We also need to make the financial reward the same across fields. There’s no reason an orthopaedic surgeon should make so much more than a specialist in primary care (a family doctor.). Also, doctors should not have to manage the clinics they practice in, and governments could do that work more efficiently and cost effectively. They need to have the space and supplies provided, to have staff paid by government so nurses are in every clinic to take some of the work from doctors and they don’t have to worry about the medical receptionist’s salary. Doctors need to be salaried no matter where they work so doctors don’t treat patients like garments in a sweatshop, hurrying each one through so they can be paid for the next. Some will strongly object. I would avoid them because they’re making piecework medicine profitable for themselves, so if you become seriously ill or have multiple conditions, you won’t get the care you need. Where I live family doctors are so in demand that they interview patients to see whether they’ll be too much work. People are asked just how sick they are, whether they have chronic conditions and if so how many, and are rejected on that basis. It means that the people most in need of one doctor who knows everything about their health and current treatment are the ones tramping from one full walk-in clinic to another.

mariag.
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I don't support the US style of health delivery. There ARE other models being used in other places that still deliver single payer universal public health care. Please look into that. It's not clear what the Ontario government means exactly. No, I didn't vote for Ford. As CBC recently pointed out, we currently have a two-tier system where those with more money go elsewhere to pay for medical treatment when the wait time is too long. Our current health care systems need updating if we're going to be fair and humane.

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I feel qualified being a worker of the public marketplace, that public healthcare may work to serve the community, but they too must profit. That is why many people struggle getting to doctors; because doctors are reliant on government payouts, which are not being received, and is leading to doctors pulling out of public insurance plans and going private--they need to profit too. The private sector is great at paying claims and many doctors prefer PPOs (predominately found on private sectors), because they are "lean and mean" about who they accept and don't have money tied up. Educate yourself from sources that are not fueled by bias irritability. Let's look at Cuba, who is also having a crisis when everything is in the govt's/non profiting hands.

carliebeecher
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Not the "best" doctors and nurses, but those who want to earn the most money. The Venn diagram is not a circle.
What we need is more doctors and nurses.
How about forgiving the cost of any health care course that a student has passed?
While the upfront cost of the course may keep out those just looking for a cheap education, the end result is a trained professional with no student debt.

adajanetta
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Very clear statement, couldn’t be easier to understand. I fear some of the politically motivated statements about the health care system “failing” are over inflated by the privateers. Yes there is room for improvement. But dont throw the baby out with the bath water. I have been using the health care system in Canada(BC) more than I ever wanted to the last 10-15 years. I have been served very well and have no complaints. Yes there is room for improvement. Private health care is not the answer!

rickatkinson
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Yes please.
Too bad those with the most money hold the power and our voting system is irrelevant. Looking at the states - public voting power over there has a near zero effect on the implementation of policy. I honestly don't think Canada, and the rest of the world, is headed in a positive direction.
Can we just put a cap on earning by any entity? and maybe raise the floor a bunch on minimum earning? Maybe put less importance on money in general? Those things might help a bit, but I'm not an economist... or rocket scientist; just an unremarkable blue collar guy in a trade, working the good ol' 60 hrs/wk.
Cheers to you, Brittlestar.

Canadian_Ry
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I would never want to Use Private Healthcare

fqkggkg
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While I understand what your saying, however, our Health Care system in Canada is FULL of Private, For Profit sections of it. I go to Life Lab for my Blood Work. Or a Clinic for X-rays. Even my Doctor is a private for profit business. They work well in our system.

However, I do STRONGLY support "Single Payer Government Funded Health Care". NO ONE should EVER be able to pay a premium and jump the queue. Everyone should be treated equal and fairly.

neilevenden
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You are wonderful and love your explantation. LIke you I a m fan of public health care!!

catgirx
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im an american just wondering the reason why our healthcare system is mostly privately owned and paid versus the mostly public and universal healthcare in most other countries, could it be that a mix of both could be good? as in good public health care for all but if you want more care it could be more privately paid or something of that sort?

swanoflove
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Look at the Portuguese case. Portugal has a completely public system, in which the government has doubled funding in the last 8 years, and the results... these... are terrible... Endless waiting lines, consultations that take several years, surgeries which take several years. The result is that half of the population had to purchase private insurance (and even so, the public queues do not decrease).

davidpinheiro
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That is cold logic served up on a plate.

s/ except if you're flatulent all you need is bitcoin :P /s

johnelliott
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ahahahaha public services don't exist to make money!!! ahahahahahahAHAHAHAH

CarlosAlbertoBrasil
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You are suggesting that all public healthcare is being replaced by private healthcare. I don't think that's the plan. Having some additional private hospitals will help everyone! People that can afford to go there will free up a spot at the public hospital. Some that can afford healthcare would otherwise go to the USA or Cuba, may as well keep them in Canada. To me it makes more sense to have both! And that may help fix public healthcare!

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