The EU's Budget Standoff Explained: Why Poland and Hungary Refuse EU Budget Plans - TLDR News

Europe is currently in the grips of a major disagreement, and this one's not even about Brexit. The EU can't currently agree on their latest budget, with Hungary and Poland currently refusing to sign off on the plans. So in this video, we discuss why Poland and Turkey don't like the EU budget proposal and what can happen now to prevent a Europe wide crisis.

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[nydydn]

I was curious about what people in the comments think, but all I can read now is how Hungary was wrongly written as Turkey. The entire comments section is useless now.

[boazbouwman]

I just wanna say i love this channel. No main stream media really talk about EU stuff. And this channel keeps me up to date

[Meister_Gurkensalat]

In my opinion it’s totally legitimate to insist on the Rule of Law as a condition to receive money from the recovery fund. They undermine some of the EUs core values and continue to block any sanctions against the other and on top of that expect to receive all the benefits the EU gives. The EU should have some kind of protection mechanism against deadlock situations like this.

[itsmegiorgio]

"if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"

[rafabiszcz]

It is important for the public to understand that here in Eastern Europe we have experienced a communist occupation and we are not that trusting as the people in Western Europe.
In simple terms, when Stalin conquered Poland, there were court cases against “enemy of the people”. Hey! If someone is an enemy of the people, than certainly he deserves punishment, is it not?
In central planned economy there was no commodities price surge, there was “price optimization”.
There was no censorship, there was “publications review”.
There was no pacification of Czechoslovakia in 1968, there was “normalization”.
In the communist regime there was no connection between the thing and its name.
So, we can all agree that rule of law is important, but even EU employees admit that there is no clear definition of “rule of law” within EU. So why there is so strong notion on implementing this regulation?
There was said that to start article 7 there must be 100% agreement of all the states except the sued one. This means that now we cannot punish the country using this mechanism. So what we do? We want to change the law! If law does not suit us, we must change it – nice logic.

[vincenttjia]

America: why borrow when you can print more money. The printer go brrrr LOL

[HenriZwols]

LOL at the envelope containing the colouring book. "Handle with care. Important Brexit documents" :D

[BB-hxmj]

I mean, if Poland and Hungary aren’t breaking any laws they shouldn’t have any problem in accepting this right;)

[Duck-wcde]

European Union loans worry me.
in my country, there are still cases of corruption in these funds from time to time.

they are not applied to the real development of the economy.

the union knows perfectly well that we are unable to repay these loans. our debt is 130% of GDP.
we are already broke.

[damnedmadman]

This is NOT about the "rule of law". It's all about centralization of power over member states. The EU tries to go around the rules established in the treaties which require decisions to be unanimous. So if Poland and Hungary don't veto this decision, there will be no more right to veto for any of the poorer member states, because they will be threatened with the breach of "rule of law". And believe me, every state is breaching it in some aspect, especially if the conditions are so vague.

[pawerysiejko]

I'm a critic of what mine and Hungarian govs are doing in general, but that mechanism looks so shady and unclear.
Why are politicians to decide if there's a breach in the rule of law, not the European Court of Justice?

[christianzelko]

I love turkish goulash and lecsó. You know the saying "Polska, Turcja dwa bratanki..."

[credus]

Well I live in Poland and I must say that EU must take actions to stop what is happening here.

[johnhobbes]

Since you priced your merch in pound I just wait for Brexit to get an even bigger rebate ;-)

[mandategaming]

We have pins of all the EU countries
*shows Britain*

Also TLDR
Brexit Brexit Brexit Brexit

[jocelynstephens]

I like the way this only controls the recipient members. A donating member will not worry about this.

[angquangtruong]

I think you make a blunder in this vid, its Hungary not Turkey

[opexe]

I wonder how my country denmark (one of the frugal four), feels about things now with a large sector of national earnings basically having been abolished (mink fur farming). I for one was always against the idea of my nation standing in the way of monetary aid, and now I dare say other parts of my country might find themselves in a situation wherein they agree even if they originally didn't.

[aidenriley]

poland was hungary, so he ate some turkey dipped in greece sprinkled with chile.

[turcsanyiferenc]

I am following this issue very closely in the Hungarian, British and EU news. The main issue is not per say with the rule of law but how it is triggered and implemented. As mentioned the EU already has the prevention and sanction mechanism in place under article 7. However, any sanction has to be approved unanimously by all member states. I completely agree that the rule of law should be absolute in every EU member states. Every EU country has to abide laws, be it their own or the EU's. However, the problem is that "the rule of law" is not detailed or clarified at the moment. The EU values that this video mentions is determined by who exactly? Just to name one example: immigration. France and Germany are pushing the EU values in this area in a way that every member state has to accept immigrants from other EU member states so that they can be allocated evenly. Apart from the fact that this contradicts free movement, I can completely agree with Poland's and Hungary's opinion: that the EU has no right to intervene in internal matters of state. Both the French and German government are seeing problems in the present arising from their immigration policy. They have been clear from the beginning that the EU welcomes immigrants with open arms. But this is not the case as not all EU governments think the same way. Because of this the sociological and cultural structure in France and Germany has been undergoing a huge change for a few years now, ever since immigration started. As a result, common people started to realise that these immigrants keep their culture, their language, their customs. They do not want to integrate into the society. There are exceptions of course but I am talking about the majority, the tendency. The immigrants form new communities within the society where you can not see any written word of French or German, not even in public places. Hungary and Poland only want to protect their citizens. They do not veto the rule of law per say but the rule of law cannot reflect EU values. EU values are political. As such currently the EU version of "the rule of law" is only a political tool to punish member states. What the rule of law has to take into consideration is laws. EU laws that apply to every citizen and every member state. If such a law is breeched in a member state than I completely agree to sanction that government financially. We can achieve this by either using article 7 or a completely new mechanism that does not have to be unanimous but it has to be very clear and not up to political interpretation. It has to state what laws every EU member has to abide by, if there is any exceptional circumstance, e.g. based on national security, what the trigger conditions are, etc.. Therefore the rule of law in its current form is unacceptable. And btw the veto right is granted by EU laws to every member state. It is normally not used but the EU cannot blame any member state to work with the tools they have been granted by the EU. This is the proper, legal way to discuss any difference in opinion on future direction. As the Hungarian foreign minister said: Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.