Is AI Stealing Your Future? What You Must Know

In this thought-provoking discussion, we delve into the fascinating and sometimes unsettling world of AI in the film industry, focusing on AI's capabilities and potential in video editing. The conversation explores the pros and cons of AI-generated content, the uncanny realism it can achieve, and the concerns about its potential to replace human creativity in filmmaking.

We also discuss the ethical implications of AI taking over jobs traditionally done by humans, from modeling and photography to film editing, and the fear that AI could replicate and even replace unique human editing styles. However, we also explore the possibility of AI as a tool to expedite the editing process, presenting an interesting paradox.

CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
00:23 Could Ai recreate famous editing styles?
06:42 Riverside is the best video podcasting tool
07:57 Can Ai use trends & formats to create good content?
12:35 If everyone can be filmmaker with Ai then no one is
13:47 Get a free month of Trackclub
14:33 Is Ai just the next “Digital Camera”?
16:17 What if Ai can learn from mistakes?
17:03 Why ideas are always king
19:56 Are we even remotely right?
21:28 The technology S-Curve
23:26 What parts of editing will be replaced?

Hosts: @JordanOrme and @HillierSmith
Editor: @TysonPellegrini
Intro Editor: @HillierSmith
Producer: @AshleyJWoods ​

[SkatePhysics]

AI actually does have it's own "Taste" which is effectively the model it was trained on paired with the goal it was given. Most AI enthusiasts who are following this closely can quite accurately tell you what was made in which different programs because of the different kinds of patterns inherent to each program. Dall-E will look different to Stable Diffusion which will look different than Mid Journey.

The biggest convoluting factor though is the language models (all the ChatGPT types out there). You can now have master-language models that train sub-language models to accomplish specific goals and actually go learn the skills to accomplish those goals. For instance give it a prompt like "Go create a digital product that sells to a million people" and that master language model will start having sub language models go learn how to create various types of digital products. Maybe one will be learning coding to make a website. Maybe one will be scanning the internet to better be able to tell what kinds of products have what kind of sales potential. Maybe another will create plugins to interact with different websites, programs, and otherwise human controlled interfaces. The list could go on infinitely, but that master language model will be able to fine tune the goals and results of all the sub language models.

IRL our content success has definable metrics that tell us whether people engage with that content or not. We fine tune our goals & strategies by using that feedback until we land on content formats that people will watch. Those same feedback mechanisms could absolutely be used to do the same with AI models.

Photographers & artists were saying the same thing about AI, but then it started to win globally acclaimed contests, judged by industry experts, with the world's top photographers as the competition. Nobody even knew until the people who put in the prompts stepped up and said it was an experiment. Look up the Boris Eldagsen AI content & the Sony World Photography Awards.

[thatllwork_official]

AI is going to make mediocrity accessible says Hayden. I would argue mediocrity has already been accessible to the majority of people for years 😂

[Dr.Hope__]

The secret is : avoiding AI replacement isn’t in WHAT we do, but HOW we do it.

People may have the same title, but may not have the same AI replacement risk.

Getting better in what we do is the only solution.

[Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

But but but....Imagine four people go to the movies. Two guys...two girls....One of the guys wants more jokes in his movie, the girls want some of the scenes extended, and the last guy falls asleep. AI Movies, can edit & generate a different version for each person.

[Redye]

Literally just thinking about this yesterday

[rossthoughts]

AI given task to replicate Hayden edits...

AI Tasks:
Find every sound in every Hayden video ever produced.
Find every piece of music.
Find every cut.
Find every length of all the above.
Cross reference everything. Tone, sounds, length of cuts. When does Hayden prefer music in A versus E and what visuals accompany those choices...and what are the length of the cuts? Now cross reference for every note in all Hayden edits.
Scour Hayden's social media. Cross reference all likes and comments about tv, music, poetry, songs, books, and movies with all Hayden's creations. Look for cross references.
Analyze Haden's favorite editors. Directors. Actors. Creatives. Cross reference a deep dive into each of them with all known Hayden creations.

Now extend that list by another 50 things I've not thought about.

After this bit of work now the AI is ready to begin creating in the style of Hayden. Will it be Hayden? No. But will be Hayden-enough to fool some (which ones?) people into thinking Hayden did the editing?

[Cncina]

Listening the second section of the video so the "Ai use trends & formats to create good content", made me think of an anime came out a few years ago, called "Carole and Thuesday". The show talks about music and emotions but it has a massive point in common with the section that I mentioned before: in the anime all the music, is created by AI. I don't wanna really spoiler the anime since i think it's amazing and really deserve a shot but, who saw it can get my point. I truly suggest to give it a try or at least read the plot of it to get my analogy. It's truly interesting how close the argoments are!

[TeeKayTurner]

I watch a thousand podcast this is my favorite

[mwright]

Creativity is not at all random. We learn a bunch of stuff then rearrange it to fit a fairly static vision. That's why we can recognize a film from Wes Anderson, Martin Scorsese, or Sidney Lumet. AI will do exactly the same thing we would do, given some creative constraints.

[rossthoughts]

Loved Force Awakens. I was a kid when the originals came out. There's a tone, a feeling I wanted when I sat down to watch that movie. And it gave it to me. Also, loved the Star Trek reboot - and I understood the arguments of my Trek friends who said "It's not really a Trek story, it's more of an action flick." I get that and yet I still loved it. In both films I got to be with "friends" from my youth, spend time with them again. They mean so much to me that being with them is a joy. Star Wars did me good. Star Trek did me good. But Indiana Jones failed...I wonder why...

[cosplayfx]

In order to use AI a client needs to tell exactly what he wants. Good luck with that. And: a client loves complaining and that works better with a person rather than a device or later a robot that smiles at the client while he is raging 😂

[TheDailyBA]

Robots can 100% think forward, please look up reinforcement learning - the processes they’re using are established scientific processes known for decades. And remember, the robots don’t sleep!

[fredoverflow]

What would even be the training data for an "editing AI"?
Suppose an AI watches a million YouTube videos.
It will only see the finished end products, not what got cut, and most importantly WHY!

[seancarruthers]

With the exponential growth of tech, it feels impossible to predict how good this stuff is going to get. I mean, you hear folks talk about quantum computing, AGI, the singularity... Lol whose to say all these things will come to fruition, but if they do, I just don't see how we can even begin to imagine how that will affect our perception of reality and our relationship with work, let alone whether or not AI can make video edits as good as humans.

All that said, I enjoyed hearing y'all debate it! Great video guys 😎

[sadpotatok]

I don't think these 2 really knows how crazy fast AI could improve, the progress isn't gradual at times

[TheTerribleHusband]

What happened to professional photographers when things went from film to digital? Did they die off or did they adapt? You can make a cinema quality feature film on an iPhone... but you need to know what you're doing. The humans/creators that will have an advantage over AI will be those that master the fundamentals.

[NathanMcMasters]

I’m not sure about the S curve. The iPhone stagnated based on human limitation. AI is moving to be able to improve itself and each improvement makes its learning capability increase exponentially. I’m not optimistic this things slowing down haha

[TasteTheStory]

A few months ago I was thinking about how capable AI could be at writing movie scripts, so I asked ChatGPT to write one for me. I made a video on my YT about the results, although I still think it will take some time for it to truly compete with humans.

[DariaHupov]

I have quite a few artist friends who are worried their jobs are going to be made obsolete by AI. I think we are more likely to be accidentally killed by an unaligned AI than have our jobs completely replaced by them (which is scary, but also slightly funny that we worry more about our jobs than the potential AI existential risk). Very good video! Happy to see you guys have an optimistic view on AI in editing.

[dhubitetackleandoutdoors]

It may be unethical for you now, and you may now rather train a human and give them that experience etc like you said. But in this video alone you are using humanless technology to replace tasks that previously were only possible with human labour. The ethical hurdle will pass with time like it has for you two and people in future will shift what is considered ethical. Productivity always wins.