How DEAD SPACE Solves the Fermi Paradox

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In a universe with more than a hundred billion billion planets, why have we only found life on one? DEAD SPACE offers a terrifying reason why: gigantic “Brethren Moons” made of meat with an unrelenting hunger for biomass.

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"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." - Arthur C. Clarke

nivenfres
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I've thought along a similar, though not Dead Space-y, line : If the Universe is about 14 billion years old, and the rise of humanity was off by just 1%, we would be 140, 000, 000 years late to the party. Seeing as we have not yet discovered a 140, 000, 000 year old (and living) civilization, it's completely plausible that a thriving active Universe has already come and gone.

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My favourite solution to the fermi paradox is just that space is big, and no one happens to be nearby.

You could hardly call earth empty, but if you were stranded on an island in the middle of the pacific it may as well be.

EB-fcmp
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Just to add onto the video: Humans in Dead Space have gotten to the point of bio-generation. This is seen in the Ishimura where they have dedicated grow labs for limbs, parts, and clones if needed (this is where the Lurkers came from).

I imagine this lab explains how there's essentially an infinite number of Necromorphs roaming the ship, since the Marker can just make a lot more of them from the labs if they ever start to run dry, but this can also add onto how the moons get so incredibly large.

To also add on, it's theorized that the Moons seem to sort-of fire Markers off into random directions for it to land on a potentially life-giving planet a huge boost in the evolution process. This means that if a planet just had bacteria or even had a small fraction percentage of having life, the Marker influences the process and speeds it up dramatically. Not only that, but it seems this life shares a lot of common knowledge between each other. The alien race in DS3 and the human race have a lot of similar features in how they build structures, develop technology, and form societies - it's all to find, obsess, and create another marker for a Convergence Event.

So not only does Dead Space solve the Fermi Paradox, it also solves the meaning of life. We were made to be food for the Brethren Moons.

testedhawk
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I adored the way Dead Space ended and how it tied to the Fermi Paradox. It's so Lovecraftian and bleak with undead god-like hyperpredators consuming the life of the universe and making more of themselves. It fits so perfectly for the setting.

kyleespinoza
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One interesting part to note of brethren moons is that they’re not ONLY made out of dead biomass. Once the creature is completed after a convergence event, it will start breaking apart the crust of the planet that birthed it. Creating a shell of rock to protect the vulnerable flesh and markers in the core from collisions while traveling in space.

bruhb
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When people question where the aliens are, I always think of the fact that no matter how great our technology will become, if aliens decide to look at us they will see at some point into the past, varying on when how far away they are even as far back as the dinosaurs. So it always made sense to me that somewhere there is quite possible a planet just like ours, with people at our own stage of life and technology, but when we finally are able to see eachother we will never know that the other is looking at our past

theguywhoasked
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My favorite solution to the Fermi Paradox: FTL is impossible, there's millions of alien planets but we will never visit them, they will never visit us, we will never meet.

berg
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If I remember right, the dead space novels explained the issue of us not having enough bodies to make a brother moon like you see in the games. The first marker was found on earth, and it basically influenced us into becoming more advanced. With us being more advanced. We became an intergalactic race, and our population rocketed up. Which is what the creatures who made the markers wanted in order to make another brother moon.

michaelbentley
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I love that casual "Yo Mamma" Kyle through in there at the transition.

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I also always figured that there existed two kinds of civilizations: Those like us, and those not like us. The question now is are we one of the better ones? or one of the worse? And if we are one of the worse, is the lack of finding life out there because they are purposely preventing us from finding anyone, in hopes of keeping hidden from us?

Schregger
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So here's my problem with the fermi paradox, it doesnt account for one simple basic detail we are currently ignoring when looking for life, distance. The farthest exoplanet that is still earth-like that we have observed is almost 3000 light years away, 3000 years ago we were stacking rocks. by the time we can even attempt to get over there, assuming we get light speed travel by some mirracle, their civilization is probably gone, and by the time we get back to earth so is our own

godzuky
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One potential is that life is abundant but technology perhaps isn't. Perhaps most life arises in planets completely covered in oceans, where they can't as easily experiment with electricity. Perhaps without fire you don't have metallurgy and thus can't tech-up to things like radios. So the universe might be teaming with extremely intelligent whale or octopus-like creatures that simply like a similar tech-tree to us.

richardpowell
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Kyle, respect for including the hand physics in the opening segment. I was waiting for it, and you came through.

jonathanluna
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For me the Reapers from Mass Effect and the Brethren Moons from Dead Space are the best creepy lovecraftian cosmic horrors in gaming science fiction. About the 6km size, i dont think it would change the scary factor too much.. the reapers for instance are about 2km in size and are pretty terrifying. What make both the moon and reapers scary for me is mostly the fact that they can screw up our brains to make us basically give ourselves to them

brunohommerding
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If humanity can make it this far, im pretty sure someone else can.

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This seems like a combination of "The Grate Filter" solution and "the dark forest" solution to the Fermi paradox. The Great Filter is something that wipes out lifeforms before they become galaxy spaning civilizations (usually depicted as either natural disasters or self destruction as mentioned at the top of the video), the dark forest is the idea that the galaxy is filled with some terrible danger and all the civilizations are keeping quiet and avoiding making noise to avoide attracting it.
I heard The Dark Forest expressed best in a creepy pastas where a star half the distance from Earth as the time Earth had been transmitting massive batches of radio signals had a habitable plant that sent us a message. When it was decoded, it was in English. It just said "Be quite. They will hear you."

Lawsonomy
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I love when sci-fi lore explains scientific and historical mysteries

BlackHawk
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One kinda cool, mostly scary answer to the Fermi Paradox is "The Great Filter". A theory that there is simply an incredibly hard metaphorical line for life to cross.
Now if that line is merely existing, or having consciousness in the first place, were all good, Humanity has somehow done the near impossible and can continue on. But if we haven't crossed that line yet, it means we will one day, and we won't know what it is, and who knows if we'll make it through.

henryaung
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Discovering what dead space actually stands for in the game must have been bone chilling.

danielszilagyi
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My biggest problem with the idea that we haven't detected alien signals is that I can barely get clear cell phone or radio signals here on earth. Why are we expecting aliens from Omicron Persei VIII to be able to watch whole episodes of Ally McBeal??

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