2017 Gibson Les Paul Standard T Cherry Sunburst Flame Top Review + Demo

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I'll be honest on this one - I don't really dig all of the tones, but it's a really pretty guitar and a very reasonable weight. I think it sounded pretty good once recorded, but it's definitely very bright with the current set of pickups and with the weight relief.

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Something is wrong with that guitar. It loses it’s power in the middle position.

DarrellYoung
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I would bet money that somebody flipped the bar magnet around 180 degrees in the bridge pickup to get that out of phase sound which could also make it sound brighter in the bridge position

matttyreeoutdoors
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Les Pauls should quack with both pickups on. Ever heard a certain Mr James Patrick Page? Sounds like you had the guitar in phase reverse mode. Also, only one of the pull/push tone controls is a phase reverse, the other one is for what Gibson call Pure Bypass.

stevegardiner
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I just picked up one of these bad boys. Wasn’t sure how I’d feel about the weight relief, but let me tell you it’s AWESOME. My back isn’t hurting, AND it balances well in your lap when sitting down. So far I am digging it. I love this guitar so far. Love the neck, light weight, pick ups, finish, literally everything.

Also, there is something wrong with your middle position. Mine does not lose power or sound out of phase at all unless I pull the phase reversal knob out, and even the it doesn’t lose power.

michaelzschoche
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Ive got one of these and it sounds nothing like this... Mine sounds really rich and full, maybe a flipped bar magnet like another commenter pointed out?

jantje
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This thing sounds underpowered. Compare it to a modern day LP Standard. This thing sounds neutered compared to the natural bass rich tone of a modern 2019 era Standard.

MasterYoshidino
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how different is the neck from the "High Performance" version?

Arthagnou
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Am I the only one who thinks that a Les Paul without the pokerchip looks quite "naked"? It was a good choice to add one in my opinion.

TheElder
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What gauge strings were used? Mine has a really thick tone with 10s

nicolasortiz
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My LP is a 2002 Standard Plus. It's wonderful and plays, and sounds great. It's very heavy. I'm assuming it's weight relieved, but it sure doesn't feel like it. The neck profile is in between a 50s and 60s.

jjdillon
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I wonder if the middle position was wired wrong? Sounds horrible! Can't imagine some one doing that on purpose.

acpauto
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Just an opinion, this is the worst sounding 2017 I've heard. I recently bought a 2017 standard hp, that rings like a bell and sounds like a genuine les paul. Being surrounded by Long & McQuade shops around Ontario, when I bought mine I had the chance to try a good amount of guitars (roughly 25-30 guitars in 4-5 different stores). Standards, along with traditionals, classics, from 2016-2018. They all sounded really good. I can't say that the quality control is 100%, but to put it in more simple terms, I've never heard one that sounded so dead than this one..

Jesse-yqmo
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Nice. Still struggle with the non pickguard deal.
Whatever happened to the snap on they did a couple of years ago??? I thought that was a nifty solution for choice. Did it fly off during the heat of battle? LoL

eoglcfophd
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Gotta swap those Burstbucker Pros out! As some who owned them previously, they are terribly bright pickups for clean work. Don’t be stubborn and stomach that bad tone - new pickups will make a huge difference. Go for Seymour’s or Lollars to get that classic LP sound.

pn
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You hit the nail on the head there bud! The weight relief kills the tone! Thank you for acknowledging that because I found all of the standards firewood tonally and I prefer the Traditional or better yet an old totally solid one! weight relief is for wimps.

jerbear
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Waiting for the LP 2018 in blood orange burst to come to my local shop.Might have to add it to my guitar collection.

bobby
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Those burstbucker pro's sound icy and high treble, alnico 5 magnets, I changed them for classic 57's in my les paul.

supermel
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Sounds to me like the person wired the middle to be out of phase... Maybe its just how the mic is picking it up... Sounds very unpleasant....

martb
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People will always find something wrong with anything. This is a beautiful guitar. Was considering a Studio but L&M has this beauty on sale...$400 off list.

DMACK
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Weight relief (less wood-cheaper)... no poker chip (cheaper).... crazy PCB technology (cheaper)....(thinner metal in the bridge and tail piece (cheaper)... less and less similar to traditional Les Pauls but Gibson just keeps raising their prices....Way to go

contrabandjoe