'Grumpy Old Gay' goes OFF on modern LGBT movement! 😂

Meet Tim: the "Grumpy Old Gay" whose rants about the modern LGBT community have been going viral on TikTok. He joins me on the DAMAGE CONTROL podcast to discuss his criticisms with modern "queerlets" and how the LGBT community has changed over time.

00:00 Intro
01:03 Where does "Grumpy Old Gay" come from?
02:09 Coming out in the 90s
05:41 Living through the HIV crisis
14:37 Non-binary vs gay
17:40 Not EVERYTHING needs to be a label
22:34 Why are they so fragile?
24:37 Teaching the woke generation
29:26 Running a Gay Straight Alliance
32:49 "Queer"
36:15 Encounting mentally ill 'queerlets'
40:20 Arielle Scarcella & befriending Republicans
43:20 "Gatekeeping" LGBTQ
45:25 Straight couples identifying as 'queer'
49:17 Outro

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[sirbaronvoncount]

I’m a straight guy but love my old school gays. I’m happy to see them separating themselves from the recent “add ons” to the community. So much of the current nonsense is nothing more than attention seeking fools who desperately want to be victims. You have my full respect and support old school gays!

[BidensTaint]

Any movement can be hijacked by crazy people, sadly

[beamanact]

THANK YOU MR. GRUMPY and THANK YOU BRAD. As a grumpy old gay Gen X-er I think we have a duty to speak out and educate younger LGBT+ people- the way WE were mentored by our own "fairy godfathers." I say this a lot: I am 58 years old. Stonewall happened when I was 4. That means the entire modern gay rights movement has happened in my lifetime--there's no excuse not to know our history, especially the strides we've made in that short span, that people like me fought to achieve. I'd love to be on the Grumpy Podcast!!

[rickyseabra]

31:37 "Well my therapist told me that I was trans"... this made me absolutely livid. Therapists who do this are engaging in a new version of conversion therapy.

[JamesSavik]

I was outed as a 13-year-old in Mississippi in 1975. Junior high was a real treat. When I hear queer directed at me, I expect a fight/attack. My heart rate goes up, I get an adrenaline boost, and I'm ready. This is not a safe thing to call someone like me.

[kingnarothept]

I'm gay but I ACTIVELY avoid the LGBTQ+ movement.

[vanillabeanlady]

"Queerlets" is a great term. In the last couple of years, multiple straight people in my group of friends have taken on "queer" identities to try to seem special/cool. One is a married straight woman who claims she's "genderqueer, " one is a straight married man who claims he's asexual despite literally going to sex clubs, and the other is his wife who presents very feminine and claims to be a-gender. They're all just trying to be oppressed and unique, and it's so cringe. Meanwhile our one actual gay friend is just a normal dude who happens to be gay.

[hernanxx]

I'm gay and never, ever want to be called queer.

[JamesCappleman]

I am 71 and was an LGBT activist since the 1980s. Back then, there was a saying "Silence = Death" and we came out in order to get more funding and resources to address HIV/AIDS. As a social worker, I helped design a pamphlet for medical staff as they interacted with patients who were trans. I founded a homeless shelter for people with HIV at a time when nursing homes wouldn't take them in for fear their other patients would become infected.

I later became a Chicago alderman and crafted an ordinance that allowed members of the trans community to go to the bathroom of their choice. A few years ago, some queer activists came into my office and threw glitter everywhere and accused me of being homophobic because I wasn't doing enough to help trans people experiencing homelessness. Ironically, I was an LGBTQ activist before their parents were born.

[Cityslicker]

I'm gay and in my late 30s and this younger generation does not make sense. Most of us want to live our lives in peace and quiet and these youngens are loud and obnoxious.

[Kvell]

Grumpy 70 year old gay here.. I came out in NYC in the 70s before AIDS. Truly a different world from today. I was lucky and met many wonderful people in the gay community at that time. I am very grateful for the freedom and rights we have today which we fought for, but I wouldn’t want to be a young gay man today. It seems like a dystopia to me.

[Eragarev]

His generation was fighting for people's actual rights and trying to survive an epidemic. This generation is fighting for the ability to create identities that are legally binding, regardless of logic or other people's boundaries and perceptions.

His era mattered. This era is elective.

[baltasarnoreno]

'If you are crying in your car and filming it after a bank teller called you she or they or he, I have compassion for you because you are not well.' Never a truer word spoken.

[GenXfrom]

As a Gen X-er myself, I will not be using the word “queer, ” for anyone. We were told in the 80s it was a bad word, a slur. And to me it still feels like that.

[pnwesty]

51 YO straight dude. Tim nails it beautifully. I recall clearly what the public conversations were like on being gay in the 80's and 90's. Not until the early 90's was I mature enough, and in touch with my own humanity and fragility, was I able to really understand what was going on. And the 80's and 90's are nothing like what came before. This grumpy old straight tips the hat to the grumpy old gay - great conversation. No idea how this popped up on my algorithm, but I am glad I clicked on it. The label conversation was spot on and refreshing to hear.

[colinclement]

Friend of mine ( 39 year old Queen and former US Marine ) despises the current LGBT community. He said gay people fought for years for acceptance and the LGBT is destroying it. My acceptance and tolerance is getting worn down from all the crazy trans stuff and neo pronouns and I consider myself a tolerant person.

[xitlallicommentstoday]

When I was young, the gay men I knew routinely referred to each other as she. Not once did I get the impression that any of them believed that they actually were women... And so, there was nothing offensive about them doing that.

[ChimeraArchive]

It's gonna sound crazy, but it's easier for me to accept a dude dressed up as a school marm from the 40's-50's, pearls, make-up, hair style and all saying "I'm a man, I just like to dress like this" than someone who looks like the scalped a clown and claims they're non-binary.

One seems like they're comfortable with themselves and the other just seems like they don't actually know and just settled for the first thing that was close enough and trendy. No real introspection or exploration just put on the uniform, read out the verses, and go through the ritual.

[michaelbell]

We've become so overly sensitive to the point where disagreeing is considered hate or discrimination and accidentally misgendering someone is perceived as an intentional insult. It's not about what you are, it's about who you are. These snotty, self centered, entitled attitudes expecting/demanding respect and understanding but don't know it's supposed to be reciprocal. Respect is earned, not given freely and you get treated how you treat others. I've gotten to the point to where I don't interact or participate with the community anymore as it's just not worth the hassle or drama. My peace is priceless and I see it staying that way.

[andreacoles]

Thanks Brad for being one of the voices of reason. As a 56 year old feminist lesbian, who did my fair share of activism in the 80s and 90s, i agree that LGBT people live in the easiest time in history. I believe that each generation has to rebel against and shock society, and the current generation has very little to rebel against so they have come up with these nonsensical ideas.