BRUTAL TRUTH about Half-Ton Towable 5th Wheels

This is the video I have been holding back on for awhile. The Brutal Truth is that the RV Factories do not want you to have the information on Half Ton Towable 5th wheels. I am going to cover several things inside this video that will hopefully help you in your quest for a 5th wheel purchase whether new, used, dealer, or private party. My transparency will know no bounds.

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[UltimateAnarchy]

You should also do a video on why you shouldn't tow a large (heavy) fifth wheel with a 3/4 ton SRW truck. I see so many m0r0ns using that setup and I know for a fact they are way overloaded. I know what the payloads are on 3/4 ton SRW (non-dually) trucks and it's obvious these geniuses towing 40' triple-axle toy haulers are grossly overloaded. I see guys with pin weights well over 2k lbs. They figure it's a diesel and since it can get uphill and downhill just "fine" it doesn't matter. Payload capacity doesn't mean squat, right?

[mikesnifferpippets]

People don’t realize that the highest tow rating for these trucks are the base trucks (2dr, smallest engine) because the of payload. Lots of numbers to consider. Good video, thanks.

[carlajackson]

Great video! We bought a 25 foot 5th wheel last year..several people told us we were "good to go with a half ton". One short trip & we knew different. Just bought an F350 diesel & are looking forward to peace of mind towing this season. Bring on summer!

[Theo]

People need to take into account it’s all about safety. The braking capabilities need to be heavy enough for the RV that’s being towed.
If you have a 1/2 pick-up it’s a light duty.

[cliffordhammer]

Great video. I personally would not even tow a bumper pull 8K trailer behind a 1/2 ton truck, let alone a 5th wheel weighing in at 10K. Common sense ain't so common I guess.

[Idahoprepper]

When I was out looking at fifth wheel two years ago, the first thing my salesman asked was what I will be towing it with. After I said I have a 1 ton Cummins then he started showing me the trailers.

[kirkdunn]

70-75% of the trucks your gonna go RVing just get a 3/4 or 1 ton right off the bat, opens up alot of options....having more truck than you need is always better and less stressful

[Cptstokes]

I'm a mobile rv tech, Great Dane RV, in Paso Robles, Ca and I agree 100% Cougar has it on their front cap, 1/2 ton towable. BS!

[toddswain]

I am glad I found your video I have been looking at buying a fifth wheel with my half ton truck and now currently rethinking my decision

[vberry]

Great advice! You are a good man. Don't forget that the Tacoma/ F150 guys usually put 300-500lbs EXTRA on their trucks killer light accessories, upgraded bumpers, bigger tires and wheels,

[TW-ymgu]

Most 3/4 ton trucks are overloaded with the size of 5th wheels people are towing nowadays, especially those toy haulers

[threeftr]

You are right, it's definitely a marketing ploy. I would never ever pull a 5th wheel with any 1/2 ton ever!
We went from a F250 to a dually 3500 longhorn/long bed to pull our (GVWR)14K gross weight toy hauler. Why? it's all about the braking and surprise emergency situations. On one of our trips, Our F250 brakes were smoking in stop and go traffic on the mountains highways around Denver, after getting caught in rush hour traffic. Scared us to death. Yea we pulled over for a very long long time.
We now have a dually and we upgraded our 5ver to disc brakes, and replaced the suspension components.
People you cannot use the whole towing capacity of your truck. The road is not always flat! You need to be at least 20% under it. This will help you in emergency situations. Check what is the weight of the 5ver vs the weight of your truck. A heaver more tow capacity truck will have heaver tow components which includes the brakes.
We can now at very slow speeds stop the truck with the 5ver disc brakes. Having a dually makes us feel more stable in towing, more in control. We are not even reaching half of the dually's tow capacity. Now we can over load the truck, and not the 5ver. We bring more spare tires, without any worry of having to figure out all the weight of gear and passengers.
We also have weighed our rig/truck at the CAT scales as well. It's a great piece of mind that we are equipped with the best possible towing combination for us. We only buy G rated tires, and change them out every 5 years. We bring a mini air compressor with us, and always drive within the tires speed rating.

[timothymaslowski]

Going down a steep grade at 50 was too fast for the conditions to begin with. Sorry to say this isn’t equipment failure. It’s user error!

[walterchutka]

Totally agree. I drove tractor trailers for 45 yrs. I've found (most) salesman either don't care or don't understand the dynamics of what there selling. I also feel new RV buyers sould have to take a course to learn how to operate there RV. Think about some of the monster rigs out there. Class A's with 600 hp engines and I've seen 50' 5th wheels. Just a thought

[jeffreylewis]

Excellent video, very informative explained very well.

[scottmullins]

About any 1/2 ton can pull it, but i have a 32' trailer and it was scarry coming off Hazard Ky mountains with the twists and turns. I was contemplating a 5th wheel, until that experience. I quickly learned, just because you can pull it, doesn't mean you should.

[markgreen]

My first RV was a 30' Kodiak bumper pull trailer. I had a Ram 2500 3/4 ton truck with a Cummins diesel engine. That truck was perfect for that trailer and would have been perfect for a half ton 5th wheel. My wife and I purchased a 35' East to West Tandara 321 RL-OK, with a dry weight 11, 200 lbs. My 2012 Ram had a towing capacity of 13, 500 lbs. With our gear and luggage, our tow weight was very close to our truck's towing capacity. After 4 or 5 pulls, we moved up to a 2022 Ram 3500 Laramie dually with a towing capacity of 20, 000 lbs ( we looked at another Ram 3500 dually with the high output Cummins and the Aisin transmission which could tow 33, 000 lbs.) So the point is, do not buy an RV that will force you to tow at max capacity. It's not safe, and you will not enjoy the experience. If you have a half ton truck, stick with a bumper pull and be mindful of the tow weight. If you want a 5th wheel, I would recommend a 3/4 ton truck and actually would suggest a diesel. Diesel engines have twice the torque of a gas engine (torque = pulling ability), and they have engine brakes, which start to slow the vehicle when you lift your foot off the accelerator pedal. Imagine going down a mountain road pulling your RV without this advantage. Our new truck allows us to tow at 70% of max towing capacity, and this makes towing much more enjoyable for everyone. Good luck and choose wisely!!!

[winterswelds]

Amazing information, or have been looking into this. Everyone said yes, but they couldn't explain why. Thank you sir.

[NYVETTFW]

Anything can tow anything...until it can't. And stopping it? Another story. I towed a 9, 000 lb 5th wheel with two 2500HD's (a 2005 and a 2009) with the 6.0...I HATED EVERY MILE OF IT! To tow that much with a HALF-TON? NO FRIGGIN WAY!

Thank you for speaking the truth. The manufacturers should be held accountable! I wouldn't tow more than 8K with a 3/4 ton gas engine truck let alone a half ton! Nuts! I tow my '21 Flagstaff 36' 5th wheel with a 2500HD diesel. NEVER would I even consider towing 12K even with a 3/4 ton gasser!