Will Elm or Typescript Replace JavaScript?

Many young nerdling developers, are curious whether a new language will replace JavaScript. Some think that TypeScript, or Elm could do it. But how likely is it? Can marginally better languages replace one of the most popular programming languages in the world?

... How about CoffeeScript, or Dart? Will they replace JavaScript?

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Stef

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[francoislecanadien]

There was a time where you had to climb a mountain in india or something to get advice from a wise old man... Vive internet !

[Zadeem]

“I learnt this from my uncle. He’s dead now.” 👀

[zadintuvas]

I agree with the message you are saying. But just to nitpick on technology: Typescript vs. JavaScript is a bit different situation compared to Elm vs. JavaScript. You can use Typescript as a tool to augment your JavaScript code, so it could also complement JavaScript (like Flow), not only replace it.

[elultimopujilense]

"Even ruby, heaven forbids" Lmao

[williamevans]

when its time to consult the oracle on developer troubles. This dude has always got you covered.

[aliayubali]

Stefan always looks like he took a shower with ruby color shampoo.

[notablemind]

I keep telling people that learning a programming language is only 10% to 20% of the effort and gets you no where on its own. What you really need to aim for is experience with frameworks+ecosystems and systems architecture, that's what takes the most time. If you're in ReactJS, you should probably get really good with React Router, a state management system (native state, redux, mobx etc...), graphing libraries etc... If you're in .NET, get use to the Azure ecosystem, table storage, team foundation etc.. etc.. If its wordpress, get use to their theming system, page builders, woocommerce, etc... It's the ecosystem and frameworks, that you need to learn which then influences your system's design. Coding or a programming language on its own won't get you anywhere.

[crashendodt]

Feel like it's more important to learn domains than languages, I know enough of JavaScript (I understand other languages code: Python, C, C++, PHP, Java, C#) but I still don't know stuff about authorization, authentication, cookies, etc. Also have problems working with some libraries and APIs, so learning all those technologies feels like more important to me than specific language or type system...

[cup_t]

TypeScript isn't meant to replace JavaScript, it's meant to improve it.

[tee]

I'm a new sub and only 30 days into my journey. Just want to say your insights are golden and really appreciate someone older sharing their experiences.

So urm, yeah...Cheers.

[REDIDSoft]

Uph, Delphi and flash/ActionScript in same pack...it's hurts, i enjoy more when the joke is about Ruby ;) excelent video Stefan, amazing 2020 to you!

[Degenerate]

The reason it "has to be 10x better" is generally that there is a high one-time cost in making the change. This doesn't really apply to Elm, which I found trivial to learn and makes me twice as productive as Javascript.

[frozen_tortus]

I'm JS programmer recently got interested in learning Elm. If I was given an opportunity to work in Elm or Javascript, I would choose Elm always. Such a nice community and delightfull language.

[tomasvalverde]

jajajajjajajajaajajjaa i love ruby jokes

[WouterStudioHD]

“You can learn the syntax in minutes”... Let me introduce you to my friend, C++...

[chiquitocastaneda]

Yup that is some good info Stefan, not just for me but for everyone... Now I know why you're so successful, Chiquito...

[arthurprather]

Its like asking will Toyota replace Mercedes.

[peripona]

I came here for another reason but the advice is priceless.
Get skilled in any one language before trying all of them at once.

[victortruong]

Damnnn ! Timeless content for new comer, thank you sir

[gerardgauthier]

Since both compile to JavaScript... I don't think so.

I think Elm could enjoy a larger circle of programmers because its language is clean and simple(basically take Haskell and offload all the Monad(state changing operations) shit to the environment but maintain all the sane parts). I played with Elm a year or so ago and it is a pleasant language if you are comfortable with immutable data structures.
I think all web developers should experience Elm to see how the other half(functional programmings) lives.