A new browser I'm actually hyped about

Zen is, IMO, the "right" way to approach building a new browser. It's trying to enable genuinely better UX and I love that. Still on Arc for now, but man...I'm tempted.

S/O Ph4seon3 for the awesome edit 🙏

[jyjyjyj]

The fact that this browser is already available for all major platforms is already a step forward compared to arc

[Malix_Labs]

At this rate, we need a new "day since new browser released" counter

[eddie_dane]

A new browser, without Ai plastered all over their landing page, pretty interesting

[alvesvaren]

I love that it is based on firefox, chromium browsers cover like 80% of web traffic, and google just being able to do whatever with it is scary

[nikkehtine]

A Firefox-based browser like that is like a breath of fresh air

[TayTayChan]

Funny how Theo always shits on firefox, but many of the features he comments on here are actually firefox onse, and not specifically zen. I do agree this extra wrapper holds great potential though.

[ahmedjaber]

1 month later: i was wrong about firefox

[jozsefsebestyen]

Funny how you get surpirsed on Firefox features existing for decades (eg per browser proxy settings)

[disinfect]

Those connection settings have been around in firefox since the start i believe.

[ivyZorz]

"their biggest hurdle is that they're using firefox as the base instead of chromium"

yeahhh we don't need anymore chromium based browsers and give google even more influence than they already have over the web. he really needs to legitimately try and daily drive firefox.

[HoYinCheng]

A lot of those “new” features, like tab scrolling, have been possible in FF. The problem for FF has been the defaults, resistance to changing them, and the difficulty of configuring these customizations. What looks promising about Zen is that the defaults are better out of the box + there looks to be a clear and easy way to share these customizations through their “themes”. I think that paving the road for the community to explore customizations is going to be Zen’s killer feature. If they can continue to expose more and more of FF’s internals in a user friendly way, their future will be bright.

[no_name]

Cool, a browser not using chromium for once!

Also: i really hope ladybird project actually does work and we finally get a fully FOSS and independent browser. It's crazy we have monopolies in every single aspect of the fucking web

[Malix_Labs]

Wake up babe
New browser just dropped

[seclvded]

"new browser" is the new "new javascript framework"

[eldarshamukhamedov]

Firefox purist here, but anything that gives folks more options for avoiding Chrome and Safari is a win.

[ventic]

Firefox multi-account containers is the best thing about Firefox that I haven't seen in other browsers. Works in Zen too it seems.

[sofrin]

firefox is adding vertical tabs in nightly builds too so this is the meta now i guess

[bagofmanytricks]

You notice that he has never used Firefox when he is glorifying every standard feature in Firefox because he doesn't know that it's actually Firefox.

[z_]

First thought was please be a Firefox fork, didn't disappoint!

[ClaridrylOTC]

Theo must have never seen Firefox Containers if he thinks workspaces have to be separate windows. You can have two tabs immediately next to each other in completely different containers. MUCH more useful than Chrome and even Arc's implementation imo