Red War Story STOLEN??? (Bungie Lawsuit) | Destiny 2

Today, we take a look at an article from The Game Post's, Zuhaad Ali, which covers recent news regarding a lawsuit filed against Bungie for copyright infringement. According to the lawsuit, writer Kelsey Martineau claims Bungie deliberately and intentionally stole key elements of his original work for Destiny 2's Red War campaign story.
#bunie #destiny2 #lawsuit

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[truemono]

Your honor this man is insane, there's no such thing as the "Red War" in this Destiny 2 game

[dreadtoni]

It took them this long to go and sue bungie, the story isn't even in the game anymore.

[MCChibby]

Dude literally sued saying 'we both used basic sci-fi tropes/language and based a faction on the roman legion so they MUST have copied me.'

[dj_mcfuggernugs]

That argument for "Fail-safe" is such a stretch

[thataceguy]

So, I am not a lawyer but I do know a thing or two about copyright claims. These claims are similar enough that the court will probably agree that they warrant scrutiny, but I think it's highly unlikely this suit really goes anywhere. The similarities are because both works are using the same or similar tropes, which are not subject to copyright. The Red War story line is similar to hundreds of other stories written before it, quite honestly a comparison to Star Wars wouldn't be amiss. I have not read the works of Martineau, but I would be greatly surprised if a jury (as he is requesting one) found any wrongdoing on the part of Bungie. Pick any two stories in the world and you can find similarities, the burden of proof in a copyright case is to prove beyond reasonable doubt the works are substantially similar such that the expression of the ideas must have been copied. Even in the examples provided by Mr. Martineau I, personally, do not find there to be substantially similar expressions of the ideas outside of the framework provided by the tropes. Are they similar? Yes, as similar as any two works that rely on the same tropes are. Similar enough to prove copyright infringement by Bungie? I highly doubt it. I'll spare you the dressing down of the specific claims, but suffice it to say I believe Bungie's legal team shouldn't have any problems dismantling the suit should they choose not to settle outside of court

[xtalvolkan]

no way someones trying to copyright "big boring villain does bad and gets defeated" storyline

[TheOnlyBritishGuy]

The fail safe shit is were it lost me, one is a character, one is a security mechanism

[michaelglace]

The cabal storyline was completely based off of Roman history, including the rise of ghaul and the red legion as a parallel to the Roman Empire after the assassination of Julius Caesar. So homie thinks that he can copyright well know history from 1500-1700 years ago, and then sue someone else for using ideas that are vaguely similar to his own. And on top of that he’s almost 8 years late to this, homie is grasping at straws.

[owenmudgett]

He really thought he has sole ownership over the concept of a fail-safe? That has to be the funniest thing I've heard all day

[MuffinMan]

0:23 homie just said the same thing 4 times and gave me a stroke

[lionheartzcs]

This reads like accusing Harry Potter of ripping off Star Wars because they both feature a main character orphaned as a young child, taken in by his weird uncle and told he has odd magical powers lol.

[Macdro]

“Outcast rises to power through their own conviction and sacrifices” - like 90% of villains

“Bad guy uses power to try and take over earth” - also like 90% of villains

Transferring consciousness to a robot body or something similar - been in sci-fi forever

A “failsafe mechanism” is much different than a video game character named “failsafe” who you can actually interact with and who gives you missions

The only thing I’m seeing here is both factions being named “red legion” but hard to confirm which came first

[goingupandup]

bro saw Pokémon sue palworld and thought he could do the same

[UnrulyRantLord]

The lawsuit we SHOULD be seeing is the fact they cut all of year 1 after people paid for it

[gloriouspickleslayde]

The dude is not gonna win, the red legion and the cabal have been in the concept art since before 2014 being shown in concept in 2010 where in some of the art you see concepts for the red legion, war beast, cabal soldiers, and even a version of the almighty. The plaintiff is trying to hussle the court system to make bungie pay for damages that are superficial. The plaintiff should be worried that bungie has grounds to counter sue the plaintiff for plagiarism, and stealing of assets that do not belong to the plaintiff. Not to mention the story he has written for his narrative are completely different in the grand scheme, one is based during Roman times the other is based in the 27th-28th century. Bungie is going to get this case either thrown out or go after the plaintiff and have him charged

[jessejames]

5:19 “okay but does it suck the sun off “ I fucking love you cross💀

[crimsonborn]

Sounds like the person should just try to sue all of futuristic fiction with these allegations

[Darc]

3:56 I feel like the EXO Mind concept was already in the Lore Cards.

[GusOmega]

Honestly I thought the lawsuit was gonna be "You can't take this content away that we paid for."

[grifgaming]

@2:08 The Red Legion was first alluded to in the taken king after the Cabal Shield Brothers failed to blow up the dreadnaught. The sent out a distress signal in the last mission in the taken war campaign.