The Five Count by Golden Touch Craps

If you watch only one video on craps techniques make it this one! Golden Touch Craps presents the Dice Dominator explaining the 5 count in craps. Subscribe to learn more on dice control!

[traceyB]

It was a pleasure speaking with you today. Thank you for your time and advice.

[chrisp]

This saved me from losing a lot at the casino last night. Out of 10 shooters only 2 made the 5 count. Everyone else 7'd out. I didn't lose any money on those. I did end up losing money because those 2 other shooters 7'd out after the come bet was established. I made some money back on my roll, but not enough (just learning dice control). However, on all 3 times i did roll. I hit the point at least once and rolled longer than anyone at the table. Even if it was only 9-12 rolls.

[Jana-TheCraftyGambler]

When I started playing craps, this is how I played. Most times, before I even buy in (this was way before the pandemic) I would watch the players and see who was a random roller and who wasn’t. I buy in and start my count on the random rolls. It served me well. I could usually double my buy in.

[kodiakkodiak]

Thanks for explaining, Dom.
I followed your dice control method few years ago and managed to "earn" $21, 000 at Caesar's casinos in Vegas.
I did NOT follow the betting method completely but, I was hitting numbers so much, I actually started to place money on the "Fire bets".
More so than not, I hit 4 point run for 250:1 odd with $5 bets for a $1250 wins and whatever place bets I had on the table, most times @350 or so.
I will be back in Vegas in few months and I am going to try this 5 count deal and see how it turns out.
2nd year of my dice control turned out not too good, with @$6, 000 loss, when I quit playing...still a $15, 000 profit from your teachings in a year.
CAN'T go wrong with what you teach!

[foxbatviper]

just got back for las vegas and the 5 count kept me out of many short rolls. then when i did put the come bet down, half the time the person would roll a seven and i would win. or if it moved to a number it would win half the time. i did not win a lot but it saved me from losing a lot. thanks Dom

[rezidentbivrip]

Thanks Dom! I am going to start using this. I forgot about it and have been losing too much on randoms.

[adaboyz]

I have never thought to use any strategy. I just waited after the first 2 rolls to place bets because I hate PSO. It has saved me alot of money!

[Lawrence-tpke]

This method has been working form me. I have been logging the play of all randoms at my local tribe casino in Washington State and in my experience of a 2 -3 hour session it works more often then not. Of course it doesn't work all the time, but it DOES give you the opportunity to EXTEND YOUR PLAY.

[insane]

Thanks again for the 5 count you know how money you saved me I cannot bet as big as I want right away however when that seven pops up and I have not made my bet yet you saved me $ 220.00 after the 5th number then I can start betting like I want to not saying the seven could not pop up any time I can see down the road that this 5 count is a great thing you just have to have patience thanks Golden Touch Craps

[golls]

If the shooter hits their point on, for example, the third count, do you keep counting or start your count over?

[Terpguy]

My personal opinion as someone who has debated the physics of craps with Dom, sets the dice and gets harrassed by dealers banging their sticks on the table, leaning over the table, etc: I can have an amazing session at a a good non-bouncy table but suddenly when I come back the next day using the same exact throw from the same exact spot, with the same dice setup, I can't avoid a 7 for my life and I am a pretty solid shooter. That is why I'm still skeptical. In fact, there is a $25 table at Caesars AC, in the 2nd row on the right end coming from the slot area that I am pretty sure Dom could never beat over the course of say 500 rolls and it's not even a bouncy table. It just has large pyramids.

[SuperTrucker]

As an aspiring GTC player, I certainly get the math and logic behind using 5-count on random rollers and upping the stakes(within reason) when you or another control roller has the dice. But I do have one important question: let's say the roller makes it through the 5-count and you make a come bet with odds. I tried this strategy, and bet Come with odds, but more than once, got hit by 7-outs on the 7th, 8th, and 9th rolls. Is there a mathematically sound strategy to compensate for this risk? Thanks for the vids and advice!

[wtexascowboy]

LOL...This "Old Guy"...LOL. This is a legend. Him and Frank Scoblete and a few other are the best in the whole, entire world. Personally Sam "The Dice Doctor" Grafstein was more helpful for my way of playing...but never doubt what Dominator or Frank tell you.

[tomboardman]

your my hero! enjoy the books + videos, have made some cash on the table also love the cheers from folks around the table!!!!

[joesaunders]

Hi dom I was wondering if you if they throw a point of 6 an the next role is a winner 6 do I have to start my count over or no

[steveperry]

i am not a high roller because i don't have a lot of money and a bit conservative. last time out i was not taking the odds bet because when i did i had a lot of extra money on the table and then the 7 would kill everything on the pass and come bets. i only felt confident when i was doing the setting and shooting cause everyone at the table had no clue except for one guy for a while. i made a lot of money for the bigger betters and did ok myself. i held the dice for about 40 min.

[Scotty__]

I love these videos from you Dom these personalized videos are the best I wish you had more of them peace and love I hope one of these days I am able to come out and get some instructions from you but unfortunately I work a lot would really love to see you in person all the best to you Dom

[squarebarrel]

Ok I understand this now. So basically if it’s a complete random thrower no pass line w/ odds. Have them throw at least 5 numbers and place a come bet. Collect. And repeat come bet and collect at least 3 times before considering increasing your odds.

[carlwalker]

I find this method works for me when im shooting because I seem to hit the same numbers and the odds are good.

[everdatingcomJohnCaruso]

use the dc margintal system on each shooter for example bet dc one shooter #1 if you win wait until next shooter if you lose wait until next shooter then double your dc bet and so on and so on yes dice will get streaky and on a roll but ive never seen on a cold table of 7 or more people every body hit on there first roll at least two or three people will crap there first roll so the thinking here is instead of using the margintal system on dc for an entire roll of a shooter we just take our lost and double up on the next shooter with a bank roll of $630 you can bet 7 shooters out meaning 7 shooters in a row would have to either hit there point or rolles 7 or 11 on the come out roll, play this way and secure a $5 profit everytime you win, its long its boaring but will pay off, the trick to this strategy is simply finding cold tables, perhaps watch the dice go around once before choosing a table on cold table shooters on first rolls half them should crap out and not hit 7 or 11 on come out or even hit a point, on hot tables either one or two shooters are hiting alot of numbers or almost everyone is atleast hiting one point avoid these tables and beat the craps game.Good Luck!