INTP: What Ne is Doing?

[RoxanneRichardson]

My husband is INFJ, but a jumper, so functions as NT, while I am INTP. The difference between Ni and Ne was so interesting to see as we were learning Objective Personality at the same time. He never wanted to get the next piece of information until he'd put the current piece in his stack of understood knowledge, while I kept saying, "Oh, yeah, I don't get that one yet, " because I was gather, gather, gathering, until I could build some sort of foundation, and then I'd circle back and look at something again and realize, oh, okay, that's how that piece fits in, or I'd get to the point where I'd remember something I didn't understand before, and then know how it fit. We're both information seekers, but while he likes to learn, I'm driven to learn.

[shmlanda]

As a lead-Ne, your description halfway through of the thought process is spot on. Another great video, Shave. Thank

[lindsayboss]

Dave, you nailed it on the Ne example with the manhole cover! The Si trigger, which is the manhole cover, generated multiple Ne extroverted ideas on how the Si trigger got there/came into being. In others word, the Si trigger generated multiple possibilities & potential from seeing the Si trigger.

[kr-]

The thing with Ne is, I'll go down a rabbit hole and then forget how I got to the conclusion. The string of intuitions that lead me from one idea to the next is forgotten about just as easily as it pops up. You can go from A to B, but with Ne it's like I know I started with A, and now I'm at Z, but I forgot the rest of the alphabet. The intuition doesn't stack.

[dolibert]

Hey Dave - Your closing sentence is a real gem. Maybe you wanna treat people who stick till the end but that really deserves to be at the beginning of the video

[idi]

2:40 He's talking about all the legitimate possibilities and I'm just angry with the idiot who opened it for whatever maintenance and then put it down wrong because the lines are not his freaking job.
Only when he gets to the ninja turtles, I relax. They close it from the inside, they don't see....

[Adolphsson]

1:00 And here I am being proud that I said that Google will become a huge chat bot in front of the class at my university 15 years ago to a teacher that thought it was a way too far fetched prediction. It's a shame Turing never got to witness how good AI would become, he never knew that you could glue the cheese to the pizza.

[RealnessEternal]

I think I'm Saviour NE, Likely Ne/Ti CS/PB FF.

Your experience with considering the possible causes of the manhole cover situation really does sound like an NE process. NE does seem to need an Si starting reference point which then gets reinterpreted or even forgotten about as the process continues.

In my case my NE is always pushing things in a more abstract/transcendental direction and I think that is likely a fundamental part of its nature. Even in the shadow form it looks like its trying to unify the psyche.

Also here is some Demon Si: Alan Turing’s name is pronounced Alan Touring!

[SpookyGhost]

Meanwhile, demon Ne:

"Here's 30 different ways you could die today" 💀

[darkrebel]

Yeah this is a good description imo. I'm INFP, so I have Ne second, and whenever I encounter a new observation or idea, I instinctively come up with multiple possible explanations. Constantly asking Why. I can come up with endless perspectives on any given topic. But the key thing is that these thoughts must originate from some external stimulus most of the time. And the narrowing down largely happens based on external feedback. I have a vivid imagination, but only in a reactive way, not proactive way.

This loop is actually the scientific method. I've been unconsciously practicing the scientific method since before I could talk. Make observation -> come up with possible explanations -> follow up in those guesses -> refine/narrow the guesses based on the feedback -> rinse and repeat ad nauseum.

It's no coincidence that now as an adult I found myself thriving in academia and building a career in medical science. Science is the playground for Ne.

Now where did I leave my Ne crack pipe?

[marshallrobinson]

I agree with the sentiment of an Ne process being obvious to other Ne users. Being an Ne-Te jumper makes things even more difficult to blast.

As an example, I was waiting with relatives for a signal to cross at an otherwise deserted spot. Non peak timing was set. After two minutes and zero cars, I walked across rather than wait for the signal. My relatives [istj/isfj/entp + intp(?)] were greatly shocked. Another group of three men followed me across the road as did my relatives after thirty seconds.

[chronomirageYT]

As a saviour Ne I did build 3 fictional world off of my random Ne thoughts, definitely gonna write a book about them, for sure, when I’m less busy, before I die, surely that will happen one day.

[eelraffe]

That closing statement is especially thought provoking!! Question, how does SiNe compare to NeSi if both require an Si trigger to come first?

[trtl]

As someone who only knows MBTI in the most pop culture way, this is so interesting that you broke it into a deeper science. It kinda feels like astrology especially with the diagrams. no offense

[Charmian-and-Iras]

They generate all these alternatives and then it sorts of disappear—doesn’t it end when they’re satisfied they’ve found the weirdest alternatives? From where I’m standing (not on the SiNe axis), Ne seem to derive satisfaction from finding the most niche, bizarre or unexpected pattern. "Sure there’s this Ni explanation for 96% of the phenomenon, but look here, there’s a 3, 8% possibility I’ve Ne thought about, and this other 0, 2% Ne rarity and this is the one that we really really need to talk about" (and then we can drop the topic altogether)

Like with the manhole, my Ne-dom besties would jump from union workers, to vibrations, to ninja turtles, to underground hobos, all the way to Idk, a criminal crew using manhole covers as signals. They’re like treasure seekers, but for the outlandish and outlying data.

[dylan.j.schreiner]

I'll have to give my vote to Socionics over at Explained Correctly that ties INTP to the Critic and Introverted Intuition. (Extroverted Thinking second)

I have accepted the first 4 Jung functions in a Type as being Mental and the last 4 as Vital, meaning to me 'Body'. First 2 Mental Strong. Last 2 Body STRONG. Strong vital body Ne and Ti just makes sense and I have already integrated it into the other type systems I work with.

I have added my own interpretation of the Mind-Body line or point of change as being tied to one's 'Destiny' and 'Center', which is either Extraverted or Introverted based on type (same as one's type). Since the functions 3456 are weak and 'Center' or 'Destiny' is between 4 and 5 I consider this weakness and concept of destiny as being critical to clarity & growth to intuitions about how this works.
Sensitivity & Vulnerability often shapes who we are, as even the indifferent universe will work around our Strengths to reach our Weakness . . . hence a strong motive to shape our future in natural response & reaction to this "fact of life". As well, our senses are naturally . . . sensitive. Fragile. So the awareness of reality generally comes from our weakness (weakness as necessity).

Yes thank you good luck

[Lily_BSFP]

I am obsessed with Ne, gonna get to that alpha state one day hopefully ☺
Best damn function and this is the best type ever!
I know it is not fair to say but I really missed the old days with a bunch of Q&A videos buddy!
shared my Fi today, yaaay! 😅

[Glten]

Ne - Ti answer for the cover... the workers keep it different to know they have been there, and or need to come back. You lack the lazy Si.

[Kamifilm]

When faced with a problem, Ne-Si is like "I will brainstorm as many solution as possible, and then organize them to establish which one is the best and doing so, I'll know if my problem is solvable easily or not and if something comes up later, I already understand how to improvise by switching option". I'm INTP and my husband is (I think) INTJ. So for him, it's more "I want that, does the data allow it ?"

Here's an exemple, we are looking to buy a house. We found one that we love but at the second visit the parent-in-law said that the electric bill was way too high. So here I go... That's a problem. What could cause it ? What kind of repair we must do and how much ? Could it be something else ? What budget do we have ? Maybe it's the pool... maybe it's the isolation...etc etc. So at the end of the day I have a big list of what we could do to solve the problem and said to myself "I'm too tired, let SI this thing tomorrow"
So I wake up the next morning and remembered that people being people, maybe the electric bill is not too high and it's just my in-law that are really good at saving money. So I ask my best friend of all time, Google, for his intake : and yeah, there's no problem at all with the bill, it's pretty average. I just lost a day on that thing for nothing... damn people.

Meanwhile, my husband hearing the same bill problem with his Ni-Se : "Oh the bill is too high ? Can we afford it ?" Go look his monthly budget'excel. "Yep, we can !" End of the story

[gloriouschaos]

Hiiii! A little off topic, but I was curious if you could do a video on Shera Seven? She's the sprinkle sprinkle lady that has been trending quite a lot lately on social media and I've wondered whats's her type. Thanks!