Bob Lazar: Area 51, Element 115 Alien Gravity Propulsion - Could it work? Fluxliner

Bob Lazar and area 51. Element 115. Could the fluxliner or alien gravity propulsion system work? In a 2018 Netflix documentary, Bob Lazar claims to be a physicist who worked for a very secret site called S-4, near Area 51. His job was to reverse-engineer alien UFO propulsion technology. He claims that not only are there an alien space craft there, but that these crafts are from the Zeta Reticuli star system, and can bend and fold space time in order to propel themselves to anywhere in the universe without the need to travel near the speed of light. In this video I examine if he is orchestrating an elaborate hoax, or whether the alien technology is scientifically plausible.

A lot of people don’t know that Area 51 was not that well known until Bob Lazar made some bold claims about aliens and alien crafts being stored there back 30 years ago in 1989. In the Netflix documentary, Mr. Lazar outlines how the space folding engines on these space crafts are set up.
Incredible claims like folding space require incredible evidence. There’s no physical evidence to speak of, but there is his eye witness report. In the documentary, he describes the physical set up of the engines, but what the documentary did not show is his description of how the alien engines works.

Here is how Mr. Lazar described the alien propulsion system:
“ (it generates)…an intense gravitational field and using that field to distort space/time, bringing the destination to the source, and allowing you to cross many light years of space in little time and without traveling in a linear mode near the speed of light.” Distorting space/time is not a big deal. All matter distorts space and time. That’s what gravity is. What Mr. Lazar I think is alluding to is the idea of creating a wormhole in space to go instantly from one location to another.

The problem is that in order to create a wormhole this size, according to everything we know requires an enormous amount of energy. I mean the energy created if the
entire mass of the earth was turned completely into energy. But according to Mr. Lazar, the “fuel” for this spaceship comes from a few hundred pounds of element 115. A few hundred pounds of any matter would not come anywhere close to creating the amount of energy needed for this.

The other inconvenience with creating a worm hole is that everything would be sucked into the wormhole, not just the space ship, but also all the air, the buildings nearby, the trees, the grass, the city. Probably half of Nevada.

Mr. Lazar claimed that element 115 serves not only as a generator of the Gravity A wave, but also as the fuel for the matter/antimatter reactor that powers the rest of the saucer. He says:
“…Element 115 is bombarded with a proton, which plugs into the nucleus of the 115 atom and becomes 116, which immediately decays and releases a small amount of antimatter.
“antimatter and matter collide and annihilate totally converting to energy”
What is antimatter? antimatter is just like matter except with the opposite charge. So an antiproton is a proton with a negative charge instead of a positive charge. The problem is, how do you get antimatter like an antiproton? These things are not floating around inside elements like element 115, that can simply be dislodged by hitting it with a proton, as Mr. Lazar seems to be saying.

The only way to get antimatter is to convert energy to get a proton/antiproton pair. How much energy would this take? It would take exactly the same amount of energy to create a proton/antiproton pair as the energy you would get out by colliding the proton and antiproton together. This means that this engine on the spacecraft would create no net new energy!

Some give credence to Mr. Lazar because he talked about element 115 back in 1989, before it was discovered. How could he have known about element 115? in order to predict elements that haven’t been discovered yet, all you have to do is look at the periodic table. Naturally occurring elements stop at element 92 – Uranium. Everything heavier than Uranium is synthesized in a lab, not discovered. Anyone can predict heavier elements. Eventually it will be synthesized.

Currently, elements up to 118 have been synthesized. It doesn’t take a genius to predict what elements will be synthesized next. I’ll make a prediction for you, an element 120 exists.

Mr. Lazar's educational background? Claims advanced degrees from MIT and Cal Tech. Neither school has a record of Mr. Lazar. No profs or students remember him.

Ufolologist, Stanton Friedman, “(Mr. Lazar) was asked to name some of his profs, He could not name them. Is Mr. Lazar a fraud? You decide
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[ArvinAsh]

Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.". Mr. Lazar makes extraordinary claims with ZERO evidence. Out of respect for our intellect, we should demand at least some, if not extraordinary, evidence. But if you want more specifics of his falsehoods, here are some:

1) Objection to "wormhole" idea: Yes, he didn't say it, but I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt by looking at his ideas within the context of plausible physics. Otherwise, if you take what he says at face value, it would be complete non-scientific nonsense. You can replace everywhere I say "wormhole" with "warp drive" if you want, it wouldn't change much. BOTH involve folding space-time to get from point A to point B - that is the the way a faster than light warp drive would work. This would still require not only huge amounts of energy, but also NEGATIVE energy, which probably doesn't exist. You can't just point some kind of negative "gravity emitter" (as Mr. Lazar describes) in a direction of your choosing and start going faster than light. There is no such thing as "emitting gravity." You have to manipulate space-time. Negative gravity does NOT come from antimatter.
2) Element 115, while it may have been exotic in 1989, is certainly not exotic matter. It has been synthesized. It's just ordinary matter. There is nothing exotic about it, and its isotopes are not exotic either. There is no way you can get negative gravity from element 115, period. You also cannot get antimatter from 115. Whenever you create antimatter, you also create an equal amount of matter. That's the way physics works. You cannot extract energy from 115 or any element by simply extracting antimatter from it. This is fundamental physics. It is quite surprising to hear this mistaken notion from a self-proclaimed physicist, like Mr. Lazar.

Here is more from viewer Rombert Dillahuntsvalle, who has looked into this extensively:
A) THE HAND SCANNER: - the hand-scanner: many of his fans point to the hand-scanner that Lazar talks about that, to them, "proves he worked at S4". This device was already publicly available knowledge by the early 1970s. It appears in electronics catalogs of the time, such as this July 1973 issue of Radio-Electronics:

B) LAZAR CLAIMS THAT "IT MAKES NO SENSE": - he himself, despite being a "physicist", says in the Jeremy Corbell film, "This makes NO sense" when referring to the alien ship's workability, but ensures us that "it does work." In other words, his claims can't be distinguished from nonsense, and we just have to take his word for it. As long as what he says "sounds scientific" to the scientifically uninitiated, many people will believe him. But he presents ZERO evidence to back up his extraordinary claims. If you don't know how it works, a scientist would still give us some data such as temperatures measured, equivalent thrust, forces measured, etc. Was Mr. Lazar hired to simply gawk at the machine?
C) S4 DOESN'T EXIST: He talks about an "S4" facility at Papoose Dry Lake where "nine flying saucers were kept" - except that no such facility actually exists. Civilian overflights near the lake have reported no base "dug into the side of the mountain."
D) DUBIOUS EDUCATION CLAIMS: - Lazar's credentials from prestigious institutions are oddly uncorroborated with ANY certificates, documents, papers, momentos, year book mentions, photos with colleagues, graduation gowns, letters of congratulations, colleagues vouching for him, or draft or final copies of his theses - documents that should be in his own possession. In addition, Mr. Lazar remembers none of his academic advisors, and no students remember him. No PhD physicist forgets the name of his advisor or his thesis. The govt. apparently not only wiped out his records, but also his memory and the memories of hundreds of students and staff!!
E) NO DETAILS: Mr. Lazar can't provide any *quantitative results* from his "work" on the "craft"; no figures and numbers for anything relating to the physics of the object and its engine, except for some sketchy dimensions of the craft that anybody could invent. For the stuff that would really matter to a physicist: no numbers given for the "electrical load" needed to activate the engine; no numbers given for the weight of the craft; no numbers given for the ratio of materials in its hull; no numbers given for the temperature of the engine; no numbers given for the strength of the gravitational field it generated; no numbers given for the amount of energy it produced; no numbers given for the frequency and energy level of the radio waves used during the test flight; no details about how it was really controlled. Isn't he supposed to be a "physicist"? Was he just hired to gawk at the craft?
F) NO DETAILS on the MAGICAL ISOTOPE of ELEMENT 115: Mr. Lazar can't tell us what the stable isotope of element 115 that he "worked on" at "S4" is. Isn't he supposed to be the one who "figured out" that it was element 115? Yet the *isotope* escapes him? Element 115 had been known and talked about since the 70's. Here's one from 1973 mentioning it multiple times:
Seaborg, G. (1973). STATUS REPORT ON THE TRANSURANIUM ELEMENTS. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.
G) PATTERN of BEHAVIOR: Mr. has a long association with UFO fanatics like John Lear, who introduced him to the Billy Meier mythos BEFORE he came out with his "S4" story. The Meier saucer is virtually identical to the "sport model saucer" that Lazar claims he was assigned to. Lazar *himself* says in an early interview that the sport model looks "strikingly similar" to the Meier saucer. So, in other words, we're supposed to believe that the "real" craft he JUST HAPPENED to be assigned to JUST HAPPENED to look virtually identical to one invented by the proven fraud and cult leader Meier who JUST HAPPENED to be defended and promoted by Lazar's buddy John Lear.
H) NO SCIENTIFIC SCRUTINY ALLOWED: Mr. Lazar has never appeared in front of a single scientific committee to discuss his "knowledge", yet he claims that he "exposed" the "program" for the SAKE of the scientific community - but he DOES sell Area 51 sign posters and printed sketches of the "sport model" on his company's website.

[monsieurmitosis]

Lazar never claimed it was a wormhole. So saying that he did, and then debunking the concept of using a wormhole to traverse space, , is a waste of everyone’s time.

[WackyJacky]

Cool video until you started talking about wormholes. That is not at all what he claimed!

[hallieboy]

He says he's not into debunking, starts talking about wormholes which Lazar never mentioned, and then at the end goes on to mock him.

[matguerra]

This is the least scientific breakdown I’ve ever seen. You completely and fundamentally changed his speculation to your own then tried to play to your own bias.

[acidcharon]

I am not supporting in any way lazar or his claims, however is more than obvious that you did not listen to what lazar said and claimed. That alone renders this video and your pin utterly useless.
Make a video for what lazar said not for what you imagined that he said.

[TheOblivionMemeGuy]

I don't think this has anything to do with wormholes. Its gravitational distortions which "moves" you forward

[marcolopez]

Im sure others have commented but it wasnt talking about a wormhole generator. Rather gravity field generator. You dont teleport to your destination, you still travel there physically but use gravity to pull yourself forward while pushing yourself from behind.

What he describes from the generator is that it uses a stable isotope of element 115 (we have only tested 4 and havent found any stable yet so theres dozens out there we havent tested) which gets launched into a kind of particle launcher that turns it into 116 for a tiny moment, it decays and releases a small amount of antimatter that is then used for energy. He describes some system in the that part of the generator that converts it into electricity through means he could never understand.

Pretending hes correct, the only reason 115 might be special is because it could be the heaviest element that aliens could synthesize in stable form and therefore gives off more antimatter when it decays after being converted into 116.

What we REALLY need to be focused on is analyzing HOW that generator absorbs direct energy from antimatter into electricity and how much it actually needs to create the gravitational waves. Believe it or not we have a few theories already and actual plans on how we could create a Gravitational Wave Generator Apparatus. I wont get into it because I feel like ive lost 90% of people reading this but my point is that the energy needed to create gravitational waves which you then control compared to ripping apart space and time are completely different.

[mollykeane]

I’ve never even heard Lazar talk about a wormhole!

[SethFacundo]

Jesus it's not a wormhole. It's a warp drive you convex space in front of you and concave the space behind you. The destination grows closer and the start point grows further. Completely different from a worm hole. Damn man get your sci fi right

[alexfrew]

In one of the three ufo videos released by the navy the craft can be seen turning belly up just like Lazar had said.

[RockLeeTypeBeat]

" I'm not here to debunk Bob Lazar " Continues to make entire video about debunking everything about Bob Lazar

[tomg]

Since you seem to know how exotic elements and undeveloped space travel works perhaps you should be working at area 51 instead of a misinforming youtube channel that smears the name of a man who had the balls to speak up

[biok]

When Bob talked about worm hole?

Never!!

[blindspotspotter.]

Wormholes are a product of your imagination in this case Arvin, Not Bob Lazar's.

[edharris]

Actually, I don't think that Lazar was proposing wormhole transport. He was actually a step ahead of the wormhole theorists because his idea was to have a high frequency of short hops where space is stretched and the craft is "snapped" into to the target location which is nearby - maybe only several hundred kilometers. The action is repeated at high frequency for long range trips. The advantage is that some of the problems with current warp theory are overcome such as an inability to navigate. The sensor array would simply sample the surroundings after every "snap", and that data would enter the navigation system as continual movement. Moreover, physical employee directories at Los Alamos had him listed even though his presence there was denied. The same goes for his high school and undergrad records. Lastly while it has long been thought that Einstein's speed limit could not be overcome, many scientists have worked on ways to get past the light barrier beginning with Miguel Alcubierre. Their work is promising.

[TheAverageYouCuber]

I've never ever heard of Bob Lazar mentioning a wormhole ever infact! Retrospectively speaking, it's only right, fair and proper to mention that Bob Lazar passed a polygraph test with absolute flying colours which wasn't mentioned in this video nor the fact that he's never changed his story period since coming forward in 1989 after being aired on KLAS-TV with George Knapp which also wasn't mentioned in the video, most retrospectively speaking ofcoarse! Furthermore, there was no other explanation on this particular video on what else could have contributed to the much widely anticipated aerial phenomena to occur outside the gates at Area-51 whilst inviting (son of the Lear Jet) John Lear aswell as Bob's ex-wife to view and capture on video! With this being said the late Stanton Friedman was a nuclear physicist with two subject matters to sell and sign many books pertaining to the field of ufology, most specifically 'the day after Roswell' aswell as the 'Majestic twelve' documents, although it does give ground for many folks to no doubt wonder and quiz as to why Stanton wanted to be seen and recognised as a ufologist!?? As a nuclear physicist, Stanton Friedman would obviously require a high level TS security clearance with EG&G in order to work or liaise with Los Alamos National Labs under the Department of Energy and that of Naval Intelligence respectively! It's completely natural for the late Stanton Friedman on having a very close working relationship with the then late Edward Teller at Los Alamos National Labs at the time and no doubt would have been appointed with the task of concealing all matters and affairs pertaining to that of the classified world especially on regards to energy generation and nuclear fusion related and no doubt if indeed confirmed which it now has as of the 6th of Aug, 2023 and that is the apparent overwhelming realisation of off-planetary visitors aswell as that of the remnants of their anti-gravity stellar vehicles and that of other artifacts and technologies that have been left behind only for us to ponder over in total spellbounding curiosity at the highest level of National Security and additionally, well outside of public awareness! According to Bob Lazar it was the late Edward Teller who hired Bob before hiring him to work away out in the Papoose Testing Range, Test Site Four in order to back engineer the very otherworldly propulsion system inside the craft which was nicknamed the 'sports model'. With the strict level of pressure along with armed security personnel at the Area-51 vicinity that would be ever most likely, inparticularly at S4 with Bob's telephone being tapped by CIA, NSA and FBI aswell as other federal government agencies and goodness knows who else constantly breathing down Lazar's back then who could have blamed him for whistleblowing? If Bob wanted to capitalise out of his experience after working at the facility by selling and signing books at UFO conferences and such like then he would have already done so by now! Am afraid on this ocassion Arvin Ash the content of your video that you've presented here in this respect regards to Bob Lazar is very much inconsistent and is not entirely accurate with Bob Lazar's testimony in review of the findings!

[Ippo]

"im not a de-bunker im not gonna try to de bunk him." as he trys to find ways to debunk him the whole video.

[hobbygrad]

this video didn’t clear up anything... you just made fun of the guy at the end of it.

[dxsoundlabs]

i dont think he's ever described wormholes for the method of movement, rather a warp drive essentially