Early Zaku 1s Vs Early Production Guncannons

[shinigamikira]

Wasnt really a fair fight though. You got Ortega, Gaia, Mash, Ramba Ral, and Char against pilots who haven't fought with movile suits at all. They might be outnumbered 12 to 5 but when you take into account the pilots the outcome was inevitable

[Freedomcustom]

And with that act of insubordination Gaia destroyed Zeon's ENTIRE minovsky advantage

[vermillionwing]

Zeon had quality and experience advantage, especially early on.
Federation won out by sheer production power/modularity once the experience gap closed over time.

People forget that GMs didn't really enter true mass production till around/after the Battle of Jaburo. Part of Project V's importance was the delivery of battle data to produce GMs. Federation pilots are mostly referred to as poorly trained till post Jaburo.

[CaptainKrabcakes]

The Guncannons excel at medium to long range, whereas the Zakus and Bugu are more fit for close range.
No wonder the Guncannons got clapped once they got into close quarters combat. They lack mobility and reaction speed compared to the Zaku and Bugu.

[LockeLynx]

If you think about it, the RX-78 Gundam MS fixed a LOT of flaws that these Early Guncannons had and significantly closed the gap between the Feddies and Zeon in MS development. Quite scary that they caught up so fast

[PheonyxJay]

Even though it’s aces vs greenhorns in slower suits, the Zaku 1s had weaker armor than the 2s, and in the opening barrage alone, there should have been at least some damn paint scratching. A broken armor plate, a torn off piece of shoulder armor.

SOMETHING to show that, while new, Zeon would have to adapt in the near future as the Federation was starting to catch up.

[LizzieHohenstein]

What's interesting is that depending on the sources, the Guncannons are classified as MBTs.
It kind of highlights the Federation way of thinking on warfare during the OYW era where they still hold on to "old" doctrines.

[Valarius_J]

Gaia should have been court-martialed over this. His insubordination resulted in the absolute failure of their mission and in the long term severely set back Zeonic R&D.

[luxeternity]

Still wishing for that gundam origin remake with this kind of style and animation

[ckeith]

This like pros fighting against newbies first time holding a gun.

[Vb-]

I feel Char visits the Cloud district. When he isn't fighting in the wars he's been in

[harrisonchr]

I still can't believe the opening barrage by the Guncannons didn't do anything, not even a scratch.

[khorgor]

I hope that Char kid does not make a habit out of shooting space ship bridges

[notaclass-d]

something to mention about guncannons made at this point, is that they had less armor and worse weaponry(presumably) than the guncannon from the original series, which was made in tandem with the gundam, using the fighter core technology

[redfire]

0:40 Bruh, ngl, seeing a MS simply walking out of the dark side/shadow of the Moon feels like some space horror.

[MM]

I am not a Gundam hardcore fan, but what struck me most was (like real aircraft or tanks), a more powerful engine makes or breaks a design. The huge energy budget of the Minovsky reactors allowed heavier armor, weaponry, and more maneuverability, without compromising any of these aspects in favor of one or another. Just the fact that they can self-deploy over operational ranges without needing a carrier to come directly to the frontline is a huge plus.
The guncannon mechs seemed to have favored lighter mixed weaponry over everything else, with a much less powerful engine, with commensurate decreases in protection & mobility.

If I had to pick a historical parallel, this seems like what happened to Paul-Bolton Defiant turret-fighters when they were deployed against German Bf-109s during the Battle of France in 1940 (it was a massacre).

[RandomInternetUser-yicc]

For thos asking what the show is, it's called Mobile Suit Gundam: Origin

[skyhunt]

Basically, a mass murder sherman early type who the crew didnt ready to experiencing it against 4 elite leopards.

[numbrc]

Every clip from this series is like watching a professional athlete playing against a child. You could replace the Federation pilots with cats or the equivalent of a brick on an accelerator and they'd do no worse.

It's a frustration watching clips of this series and seeing Feds that would probably lose a fight versus a cardboard box with a Zeon logo on it. There's no fun in seeing Zakus dunk on enemies so incompetent.

[ilhamshobri]

its bit funny, in other gundam anime, the sharpnel from eplosion alone could simply turn zaku into scrap if that close, let alone the blast.

well, this is prime example of plot armor anyway.