The shocking result of Epic Games vs Google

Full explanation of the Epic Games vs Google antitrust lawsuit. Find out what the future will look like for mobile and game developers after this shocking new precedent was set.

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[MitsyWuzHere]

You're telling me Apple avoided anti-trust laws by being MORE monopolistic?

[keybraker]

It is just astonishing how apple avoided this lawsuit by being a complete monopoly.

[noirsociety]

"I think it's wrong that only one company makes the game Monopoly."

-- Steven Wright

[kid_gen]

Being labeled as a monopoly has a lot more legal implications than just "you can become one without breaking the rules." Once you are legally assigned the status of a monopoly, you automatically become a highly regulated entity by the government. The problem has been that the government has not stepped in and labeled these very obviously oligopoly corporations as such, so they are not being regulated to the standards that a legal monopoly would. It's a bit of nuance that isn't covered very well, in general, but I think people need to have a clear understanding of it. We CAN control monopolies through regulation (like limiting the amount they can tax people that use their digital stores), but we need to assign them as a monopoly under the letter of the law.

[JeremiahFish]

I’m in that photo at 1:38. It was taken over 10 years ago at the University of Missouri School of Business… but was a journalism class. Apple showed the same photo in a WWDC keynote. Wasn’t staged, you got a credit with tuition towards an Apple or Dell laptop… Apple was way more generous.

[anmolsharma]

Not to mention it's pretty much impossible to use degoogled Android in India, all the major banking platforms have made play test attestation necessary.

[evancombs]

What people often miss about monopolies, as you stated is monopolies are not illegal. What is illegal is you can't use your monopolistic status as leverage against other companies squashing potential competition.

[desidev]

Imagine being an open source project is an disadvantage

[mr.p]

So wait, how is Google paying devs to get them to publish on the Google Play Store for not even exclusivity but to launch at the same time as others is a no, no, but Epic paying devs to publish games exclusively on their store and hold it behind bars for x amount of time is fine?

[DJPapzin]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:

00:00 Google *vs. Epic Games Legal Battle Overview*
- Epic Games wins a legal victory against Google, challenging the 30% cut for in-app purchases on the Play Store.
- The case highlights the debate over the fairness of app store fees and the potential impact on the mobile app development landscape.
01:11 Apple *vs. Google Legal Contrasts*
- Epic Games won against Google, citing anti-competitive behavior, while a similar battle with Apple resulted in a loss.
- The closed nature of Apple's ecosystem compared to Google's open-source platform plays a significant role in legal outcomes.
02:06 App *Store Strategies and Developer Treatment*
- Google's Project Hug and financial incentives for developers to launch on the Play Store are discussed.
- Internal documents reveal strategies to maintain dominance, treating top developers differently, and preventing competition from alternative app stores.
03:04 Epic *Games' Objectives and Tim Sweeney's Role*
- Epic Games seeks fundamental changes in app store operations rather than monetary compensation.
- Tim Sweeney's bold approach against big tech, despite being an outlier, results in a legal victory and echoes Steve Jobs' quote on changing the world.

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[Xe]

Stop distracting me at work Fireship, I'm the only dev left at Spotify scrambling to fix the play button.

[habib_khan]

Apple really pulled out a Savitar lol, "the more you do it, the less the rules apply to you"

[eddydavies]

the main difference was really that apple case was settled by a judge and the google one by a jury

[coltmarshmallow]

This seems a bit rich considering this is also the same company that pays devs for exclusive video game deals regarding epic vs steam ... and then even complains that most people like steam more ..

[aranthos]

I’m almost certain that the recent Spotify news where they barely get charged by google was the nail in the coffin on this for google

[chenlim]

LOL, the headline here is that Apple has better lawyers than Google.

[robertwallace]

apple must also have a monopoly on good lawyers. Them winning is outrageous

[NoNameNoShame]

Google pays to lawyers, Apple pays to judges.

[josh]

Super tragic. Heartbreaking for the techies... A blatant motivation for companies to be less transparent and more closed off 😢

[This_Account]

Legal lesson:

Anti-competitive practices with self: Not-monopoly
Anti-competitive practices with others: Monopoly

This is America.