Why Entry Level Jobs Require 3-5 Years of Experience

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00:00 - Intro
00:40 - Why do companies have postings like this?
04:35 - My experience + experiences of others
07:16 - Actionable advice
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This is why I hate the new job market.
It's being overrun by recruiting companies, HR consultants and people who have not business gatekeeping talents that can be harnessed just because these talents don't have 3-5 years of experience.
Give back the recruiting rights to engineers, accountants, business owners and people that will actually work with the new employees.

GTestuser
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It is ridiculous for people who have 3+ years to apply for these entry job postings. Companies continue to post these jobs. It is a trend in the current market.

jaywin
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Requiring 3+ years for entry level is "understandable" in today's market. But also wanting **recent** graduates??? Like how? lol

jainicz
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Some employers are mocking people on purpose. Many CEOs and other C level managers hate their employees with their guts. I'm not exaggerating.

viktorskarlatov
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For small companies, it’s usually because HR doesn’t know how to hire engineers and they don’t have the bandwidth to train and teach entry level engineer.

sunnyboi
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It is so discouraging for people that are taking up computer majors or software coming out of college. They are just trying to break into the very bottom of the industry and are bombarded with all the negativity and the very discouraging job listings.

Companies should want to train people at the bottom. In fact every company large or small should have a system in place for this in so many simply don't.

My last internship I was thrown right into an ongoing maintenance project without any real training period.

My training consisted of looking through documentation by myself and going through tutorials by myself. I even asked someone to show me around basically and they straight up rejected my request and told me they don't have time and I should just figure it out.

theanonymoustechie
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After going through the job hunt I've come to the conclusion that tech companies are ran by some of the worst humans in the world and software developers as a whole aren't far behind.

DanielShays-yy
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I find it funny "entry level" jobs are asking for this as if you have 5yr + experience in any coding language I guarantee you are not looking for "entry level" positions 😂

amethysteditz
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When my wife started working in education a decade ago after getting her degree in music education, she struggled with the exact same problem. Schools were looking for teachers with at least 2 years experience. Eventually after persevering she got a part time job and earned the experience she needed. This isn't a programming field thing.

JD
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I’m an interpreter. These people are using the English language not only incorrectly, but WRONGLY. An entry level position by definition cannot require experience. It’s either entry level or experience - which should be paid more. This is a HUGE red flag. I applied to work in an interpreting call center and was given this bs by HR. I asked them if they knew that interpreters’ jobs are predicated on the fact that we can understand the meaning no matter the words. I then told her she was insulting our intelligence by acting like that. I asked her again which it was and when she gargled like a fish I left and warned other interpreters. She didn’t last long.

ire
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"Entry level" at certain companies is quite senior relative to other companies. And as programming as a skill set has become more accessible to learn, it's not uncommon to find somebody with experience already from before their professional career began.

concuben
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Someone has to do the entry-level tasks. If you're more experienced, you can look forward to being down skilled if the company tried to put an experienced person in an entry level role.

monterreymxisfun
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There's a "tiny" bit most people seem to miss on that "years of experience" part. Translates to "maybe not skilled enough, but not so dumb he can't learn something and get some work done, so much so we kept him around for (cumulative) 5y on the job(s)". Also tells the employer something else. 5y in one job? Someone saw value and got ROI. 5y over a few jobs? Must check, but yeah, people come and go, project are volatile, etc, must check. 5y over 10 jobs? You better work as a consultant or be able to prove you're the unluckiest person ever...

ErazerPT
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wishlist my ass, good luck getting through the ATS if your stated years of experience don't match what's on the job description

Zuranthus
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This proves these employers don't know what they want nor need, fkn incompetent

tw
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What's really ridiculous is the first example shown in the video says "recent graduate" AND "5+ years of experience". Clearly whoever posted the job can't do simple arithmetic.

lalakuma
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A way to weed out applicants so if there are people with more experience, then you will not get hired.

alpark
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Let’s go I love it! We need gate keeping on SWE

drew
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Most IT jobs require 3-5 years of experience, it's crazy. There are barely junior jobs.

MarcGameplays
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Frankly the biggest issue is that an ad can easily write 5 paragraphs about the position without actually spelling out what they want done, which results in the same issue of an absolute absence of reference points. It's like a customer who wants "50% more pizzazz" in some work they're commissioning except whoever asked them to procure the piece had their own lexicon of buzzwords. If the business was a person, it'd be such a socially handicapped one that they'd qualify for a handler. Throw in a labyrinthine bureaucracy to kill any semblance of self-awareness for good measure.

esek