AMD's FX Processors Were Very Underestimated - The Truth of AMD FX

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[kylemacgregor]

Thanks for making people like me rocking the fx 8350 still feel better.

[apachelives]

I remember back then i3's were faster at gaming with the AMD FX CPUs being average but acceptable, now the same i3's are useless and the AMD FX CPUs are STILL average and acceptable. AMD is fantastic for value and bang for buck.

[harsh]

i hate those youtubers who say, "If you are still using a FX processor, i feel bad for you."

[IAMPOPP]

These are definitely good arguements. I had the FX-8350 and i loved that cpu. I only upgraded recently to ryzen 3700x because it finally got to a point where i wanted to upgrade out of want, but not necessity. Now i can give my old rig to a friend and he can play new games as well.

[syncmonism]

I never thought that the FX chips were that bad, but they were a little ahead of their time, in that most games (and some other software) didn't take good advantage of their architecture or all of their threads. The absolutely most powerful multi-threaded CPUs were still Intel at the time, but they were just way more expensive, but power users who cared about that tended not to bother with the 8-core FX chips, but the 8-core FX chips were great value for some people. AMD just wasn't able to sell enough of them. Ryzen seemed to continue the same sort of trend of offering even more threads, but its single threaded performance also improved a lot as well, and it represented AMD getting a lot closer to Intel's highest performing chips, whereas Intel's IPC and manufacturing improvements had slowed down a lot (making it possible for AMD to catch up).

Now, just exactly how Intel allowed AMD to overtake them is, on the other hand, a much more complex question. It's not like Intel is dead yet or anything. They're still selling lots of CPUs and making lots of profits, it's just that their sales and their profits are going to be in decline for a while. Whether Intel will be able to get things under control and stay competitive enough to defend a lot of their market share in the CPU market is not clear to me, but it seems that their reliance on their own manufacturing has made them less flexible than AMD, at least for now.

[RATechYT]

*Edit as of 8th of July, 2020: Ignore what I said starting from **3:24** to **3:32**. I recently tested the i3 3240, and that information is incorrect. The reason I said that was because that's what I've seen a lot of people write and talk about, which turned out to be bs, and I'd like to apologize for misinformation.*
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I also want to add that it's just unfortunate that FX received a lot of hate, just cause most reviewers weren't able to show their true capabilities at the time. Even though Piledriver CPUs were behind compared to Intel's processors in some areas due to lower single core performance, they still performed better in other multi-core intensive locations of the game, and the thing that I dislike the most is that most reviewers that I watch did not even talk about this. Also back then most people would only show you average and minimum frame rates without frame time graphs or anything, which obviously wasn't sufficient to demonstrate which product is better over the other. I would always hear people recommend getting an i3 with a better single core over a 6 or even an 8 core FX CPU, and even I myself would believe that locked i3's and i5's were a better choice. After years of research and experience, I realized that was wrong. Having more cores, even with an exchange of 15-25% worse single core performance seems to be a better decision, of course unless you use tasks that are only single core dependant.
Basically my point here is to spread some awareness and explain people that frame rate graphs are not always enough to understand what a CPU is capable of in gaming. Look for benchmarks that show you frame time graphs and the gameplay footage itself, preferably of a few different locations, cause that seems to be the best way of benchmarking CPUs.

[Rimonds]

Still rocking fx 9590 :D and i dont see the need to upgrade.

[montreauxs]

And now? I still keep my FX-8350 / R9 Fury setup which runs fine. And AMD has begun mauling Intel on every front! Ryzen 9 Anyone? LOL!!

[CharcharoExplorer]

This is correct. Testing my old Ryzen 5 1500X vs my old i5 4570 showed me how important testing multiple areas is. Now to be fair, the 1500X was faster in single core too, but in some games or scenes it would be a few percents. However, testing in extremely demanding scenes in some games had the i5 get literally crushed by the SMT enabled 1500X, up to 53% even.

[JT-koib]

The power consumption argument definitely hinges on computer usage time each day, and geographical location, whether AMD was a choice that generation. The performance of the chips are still pretty good, thanks to their multi threaded performance, so a bit of a shame AMD never tried, or could, go further than Piledriver on this socket. Even just one more move to Steamroller would have been quite an enhancement.

[KooYu]

FX6300 user also here. I have a pretty good chip working 4.3GHz @ 1.28v and I dare to say, I would like to upgrade but I can't find many reasons...
True, I will eventually upgrade to an R5 3600 but he only thing that suffers (performance wise) is video editing and encoding/rendering. I'm pretty satisfied with everything else.


Well said man!

[macronomicus]

Love my FX 9370, all these years overclocked to the max and still solid going as strong as ever. AMD makes quality that lasts for the best price. I do intend to upgrade when the Ryzen 3 comes out though. :)

[johnpaulbacon]

Nice video. For my PC's Final AM3+ build - it was more then Enough for my needs. Following was my setup before I had to switch from AM3+ an AM4 build. Case was the Thermal Take Commander G-42. PSU was the Seasonic Pime 650w FM 80+ Titanium, MotherBoard was the Gigabyte GA 990FX-Gaming, Ram was 32 gb ( 4 x 8 ) Crucial Ballistix Sports XT ddr3 @ 1866 mhz, Storage was the 1 tb Samsung 970 Evo NVME M.2, GPU was the MSI Radeon RX - 580 Gaming X 8 gb, CPU was the AMD FX-9590 @ 4.7 ghz base / 5.0 Ghz boost, CPU Cooler was the Corsair H100i GTX AIO.- Optical Drives were 2 x LG HL DT ST BD RE WH10LS30 ( BluRay - ReWriters ). - OS was Win 7 Pro 64 / Win 10 Pro 64 after free upgrade. In that configuration I didn't feel there was a Need to upgrade while it was working. Even to this day somehow my 990FX-Gaming mb got some damage { most likely } some electrical damage that caused the MB not to boot properly. If the mb hadn't gotten Damaged I would probably still be using that setup today as my daily use machine.

[akashnandy]

A proud FX-8350 owner, paired with Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, I never looked back.

[FamilyCS]

My sons pc which is parts of my old pc runs a FX 8350 with a 1050ti 4gb. Add a ssd to that and a decent motherboard, we got a decent older gaming rig that still holds up! I havbe always loved amd. RED TEAM GO!

[GalaxyTracker]

I have an 8320 and it is a superb chip. On its default settings it was overheating. But I could not believe my eyes when I overclocked it to 4.1 while undervolting it by 0.1V! The temperatures dropped more than 20 oC and I had a faster chip! Paired with an overclocked 7870 Ghz edition, I really believe I really hit the sweet budget spot back then in 2013.

[leoneldeleon]

I like my Fx 8320e better than my i5 6400. Fx processors still running good in 2021.

[angeltzepesh]

Lets all be honest, FX CPUs werent hated for no reason, at the time almost no games utilized more than 2 cores and so the performance was horrible. I had an FX 6300 and i had to change it with a 4690K because my GTX 970 was being bottlenecked by the AMD CPU. I remember like it was yesterday when GTA 5 came out on PC how dissapointed i was by the performance i had.

Sure, they aged better compared to i5s of that era, but at that time they were very average CPUs in gaming, for workloads they were fine.

[dewetwet]

I had an FX 8370 from around 2013 to 2017. When I picked up a 1600. It served me super well during that time.

[Colonel]

My FX 8350 served me well for 5 years up untill i recently made the upgrade to the ryzen 3700x. It's a solid chip for the price, Can't go wrong. But I did notice the past couple of years that it started to suffer in newer titles.