The Issue with LS tractors.. Why to even Choose LS? Is LS junk?

Just me going over some of them big issues with ls tractors. Always feel welcome to comment down below like and subscribe!

All Dick'd Up

[countryboy]

I've had my Massey Ferguson GC1710 for 7 years, not problem with it. The dealer even called me a month before the warranty was up to see if I had any problems, none whatsoever. Hats off to Card Brothers in Chesaning, Mi.

[andrewbusby]

I'm in SW Louisiana, my neighbor is a LS Dealer. I just bought my second LS tractor last week. I have 2 or 3 small issues with my 2015 tractor and repaired it myself. The newer dealers have had issues with repair bc of exactly what you are talking about inexperienced mechanics. My Dealer and neighbor is 100% committed to customer satisfaction. I just purchased a 68hp cab tractor. Im really sorry to hear you had this type experience, I truly believe these tractors are great products for the money.

[d-]

So glad you did this video and with detail. I know the dealer and was there recently looking at tractors. Learning of your experience making a choice is easy. Orange is right down the road. When something breaks its often not at a good time so support is everything. These are relatively simple machines and not that hard to fix so there is no reason to do anything less than a perfect job. That pin he wired up. No excuses, there is a TS just a hop-skip down the road with a good assortment of pins he could have used. With that kind of service I wouldn't even buy a trailer there.

[idahodiy]

Every business is like this now. Nothing gets done on time, instructions never get followed, no one ever calls you back, etc. etc.

[shaunnemeth]

I have a New Holland 1530 I purchased new in 1997. At the time of purchase I did not know it was made by Shibura. My local New Holland dealer still has the parts I’ve needed to keep this machine maintained and running. Point being stick with brand names. You may pay a little more up front but as the years progress it nice knowing someone has your back…
LS now makes compact tractors for New Holland. New Holland engineers the loaders and hoes and provides ongoing support for these machines. That support is priceless when you need it.

[tonywilliams]

You mentioned New Holland dealers would not work on or have parts for LS, that is strange since LS makes New Holland. I know a lot of parts are interchangeable. Thats just too bad.

[jasoncreech]

Thank you for sharing your experience. With a combination of your videos and Deep South homestead LS experience has changed my mind on our next purchase.

[jerrygilliam]

Sorry to hear about your troubles. I bought my LS XR4145HC with the backhoe attachment three years ago. I have 780 trouble free hours. I've accomplished a lot of hard jobs in those hours. I saved over $12K in buying this tractor with no regrets. I had only 2 LS dealers in my area. I chose the one with the best equiped shop and best trained mechanics, just in case I had a major issue. But it's all been good. Long story short, good dealer support and good dealer set up is an absolute must no matter what brand you choose.

[tamugrad]

I have the LS MT345E. I picked it up used from the original owner with only 63 hours on it for $16, 500. That included the front-end loader, a 5' box blade, 6' brush mower, and pallet forks. It has done everything I 've asked of it with ease. The features are nice and controls are well located. I added the rear remote hydraulics and third function. Personally, I need at least 40HP. Anyway, I've not had any issues with it at all. Dealers are few and far between, but I can get most parts online or by calling one of the bigger dealers. I can complete any needed repairs myself, but I haven't had to repair anything yet, just perform the standard maintenance items.

[chrismalchoff]

I see all of these discussions but there are just a few critical decisions to make before you buy a compact tractor. Are you going to resell it? If you buy a used off brand, you will pay less. If you plan to keep it forever who cares about resale? If you have to have new and you want the option of selling later buy the green or orange ones. I like used pre emissions stuff with mostly metal. Keep the plastic hoods, fenders, shrouds. Most models will work for what they were designed. I would bet I could break any brand if I just wanted to abuse it. To me a critical concept is that most implements if sized for a machine should give before the core parts of that expensive tractor.

[Slane]

I went pricing out some tractors today with my parents after we came back from doing some errands. We have Kubota, Massey Ferguson, Kioti, John Deere, LS, New Holland and Mahindra in my area. The two brands I priced out today were a Massey Ferguson and John Deere. The dealer who sells Massey Ferguson also sells the Kioti tractors so while we were there pricing out a Massey we also mentioned the interest in Kioti but the smallest machine he had in stock was slightly too big for our property. He said we were better off with a Massey as far affordability and features went because even the Kioti went for a bit more.

We also priced out a similar sized John Deere with the same features we wanted on the Massey and it was going for almost $4, 000.00 more. Plus the monthly payments on the Deere were also a lot more than the Massey. We have an LS dealer about 30 minutes from my house that I wanted to check out but we didn't have the time to go before they closed. So I'd like to check them out this coming weekend to see how they compare to the price of the Massey with the features I want.

There's also a New Holland dealer right here in town but those tend to be pricey so I'll probably just skip those altogether. My father has a small Kubota BX setup for snow removal and mowing grass as he has my grandfathers larger tractor with a loader already. He likes it a lot but like a lot of people he's not fond of their stupid rocker pedal so I'll be skipping Kubota because of that. Besides that the dealer that sells them is really good, they've been champs dealing with my grandfather and his dementia when he was having "problems" with his Cub Cadet lawn tractor.

Until I go to the LS dealer and get prices plus monthly payments it looks like my main choice is a Massey Ferguson. Everything else either seems to be out of my price range as far as payments go or there's a feature on it that would annoy me to no end (Kubota's stupid rocker pedal). I'd have no problems doing a higher monthly payment if I wasn't already paying a truck like I am now.

As far as your experience goes with your tractor. To me it sounds like even though things broke on it when they shouldn't have your whole problem is that your dealer is total shit. Because they did to you like our Yamaha dealer did to my friend when he was paying for a utv through them. They were happy selling you the machine but the moment something broke on you more than once even with light use they started blaming you for breaking it on purpose. What made it even worse is you also wasted your time to promote the guys dealership without asking for anything in return and he still blamed you for breaking your tractor.

A shit dealer always seems to be the one that instantly blames the customer when something on their machine breaks under warranty and the dealer has to fix it.

[-Dave-is-not-here]

When I bought my New Holland it was not that much more than a LS when I checked at the time they were pretty much the same price(purchased in 2018). I have had issues with the service department but it is basically one person that is an idiot there and I wont deal with him at all. One reason I went with NH over LS was the LS dealers seem to be other dealers first and not even in tractors most times. My NH dealer is also a Kubota dealer and a Bobcat dealer but they only deal in tractor/construction type equipment. They have been around for 40 plus years and have several locations, again allot of people say when you buy a tractor the dealer is as important as the tractor you pick and your video proves that.

[spotchris]

I have two LS tractors. A xg3025 with backhoe and a 3010 thats 10 years old. the 3025 has needed a $1.00 spring on the backhoe and paid for itself with 200 hrs. The 3010 had emergency light switch go $30.00. Total of $31.00 for both tractors. They are great tractors.

[tsafa]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm glad I paid extra money for my Kubota. Paying an extra $5, 000 doesn't amount to much when they give you 0% financing over 84 months.

Two years bumper-to-bumper warranty and I paid for the extended warranty after that to cover the whole seven years. The tractor is a moneymaker for me, I don't have the time to nickel-and-dime.

[upnorthyooper]

They are junk. We buy and sell used equipment. We have had one for a month now called a dozen dealers and can't get any parts. Half of them tell us they are not part dealers or they will get back to us. Now I know why they bring nothing at the auctions.

[guy]

have had a 2025 for almost 7 years.. Have had a few issues but dealer took care all of them.. would absolutely buy again

[robdennie]

i have a ls p7010 which i bought new almost 9 years ago and it has been a great tractor, a couple of minor issues which you will get with any brand you buy. dealer has been great with any questions and all service is done fast and efficient by them. i bought a ls k 5055 1 year ago with 1100 hours on it and it has been even better tractor than i anticipated.

[bobbylibertini]

Soon as you mentioned the part about no torque wrenches in the shop, I thought: "But these are the guys who assemble and prep the tractor!". Should have mentioned that to Ed when he was trying to blame the loose bolts on YOU! Thanks for the vid- I've seen a few used LS's for sale lately, and had no opinion of them as I've never even seen one in person. I like the idea of a cheaper non-luxury tractor (Keep it simple!)...but this does not sound like a good company. I bought a 91 Case-IH 1140 a dozen years ago for five grand...I use it pretty hard on my 27 acres(Including 9 hours of bushhogging at a time with a 5' hog)...it has never let me down or needed any repairs! I feel like I won the lottery now! Buying new and having the issues you've had is unacceptable!

[Gilikemail]

Bad service is the worst! I'm lucky that the LS dealer I go to is amazing. Even when I made a bone-head move and broke my LS, they came to my house and fixed it on site and only charged me a $100 service call and covered the parts under warranty. The service guys are all very helpful and willing to think outside of the box to help me make something work that shouldn't.

[jeffmcginnis]

You convinced me, I'm going to cancel my LS . I'm not interested in the dealership hassles like you experienced at all