I Have to Pirate COLOURS Now?? - Pantone Connect + Adobe split

Pantone recently decided that their expensive plastic chips and colour matching binders were not making enough money. Now, even old files will stop working if you don’t pay up.

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Outro: Approaching Nirvana - Sugar High

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0:00 Intro
1:26 Who is Pantone and what do they do?
2:49 Adobe x Pantone comes to an end
3:50 That doesn't make sense...
4:19 It's literally just business
5:48 Adobe pockets the money and Pantone double-dips
7:51 Why is it bad when Pantone does it?
9:14 It's not in itself as big a problem as you think
10:45 Some ways around the problem
11:48 DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE
12:23 You can't own Creative Cloud
14:08 Adobe can do whatever they want and you have no say
15:30 Conclusion - Make some noise

[NekuZX]

I really appreciate how the question in the title is not "I have to buy colours now??", but specifically "I have to PIRATE colors now??". Implying that piracy is the default option, which im all in support of.

[jarionscarlight]

Man we are living in a world where literal colors are being sold to us

[tarabooartarmy]

When Adobe pulled that whole thing with telling me I needed to pay a huge feel to cancel my Creative Cloud subscription early, I just canceled my debit card. If I couldn’t afford their monthly fee at the time, I certainly couldn’t have afforded to pay hundreds of dollars to cancel. Ridiculous. Abobe is one of the worst companies I’ve personally dealt with.

[BwakBirb]

I wanna point out, $20 or even $15 a month for Adobe as a student still isn't dirt cheap and most of my peers decided to avoid the cost
It's probably one of the most expensive subscriptions I ever had, and when I did pay for it as a student it was even then more money than I wanted to spend

[Solruc_]

Like Gaben said, to combat piracy you have to offer a better product.

[fellow]

ITV: Linus tries to convince you to pirate photoshop without saying it out loud for legal reasons.

[Enrique-Garcia]

On the topic of "what else can Adobe take away unilaterally": they killed any installations of CS6 programs and older. Yes, the ones we had bought out-right on CD or DVD and installed into our computers, they no longer work because the authentication servers that were called by the software were shut down by Adobe.

[crazy_mind-oxif]

Honestly the fact adobe makes students pay at all illustrates they're a monopoly. I'm in engineering, and all the companies give you the CAD for free, and some host competitions with cash prizes to try and gain market share. Its crazy.

[commune]

That's a nice color you have there. It would be a darn shame if I use the eyedropper tool in GIMP to get it.

[bm]

The thing that bothers me the most is: the customers, who paid for Adobe products with an active Pantone licence, created documents that used Pantone colours, while the colours were still licenced. Revoking the use of those colours retroactively is like extorting artists with scraping colours off their canvases if they don't pay additional fees. Mafia style. Both Pantone and Adobe have a quasi monopoly, so this move should be inspected by some antitrust/anti-monopoly authority.

[Nightenstaff]

I very, *very* rarely need to use Pantone colors at work and never at home. All that said, both companies need to piss right off. I was a Pirate Captain in my youth and college days and these companies are making it all but impossible to be a legit personal consumer by pricing people out of the market with endless subscription only options. I don't fault those who take to the high seas when that's there only option and I do feel those who are able to make legit purchases should, but keep pushing and more of your customers are going to raise the sail out of frustration and contempt rather than necessity.

[TheDeadmanTV]

I can definitely see why users would pirate adobe. I was saving up what little money I had when I was a student for a photoshop and Illustrator license as I was studying for an art and game design diploma. We were using CS6 at college and had just heard the announcement that CS6 would be the last version using perpetual licenses. Even the tutors were revolted as, in a time of massive budget cuts to the arts, this could be problematic for course budget, and students would have no way of completing assignments outside of classes (when your 5 hours of classes are split into 1 hour of drawing for your assignment, and 4 hours theory/storyboarding/still life etc etc, that doesn't give you a lot of time actually working on your assignment, a lot of us who couldn't afford a license from the get go already used our lunch breaks and stayed as late as we were allowed to get our assignments in on time). It got to the point the tutors were DEFINITELY NOT ENCOURAGING *wink* *wink* us to copy the CS6 install files and some dll files from the college computers and use them to crack CS6 for home use.

Unfortunately I ended up dropping out and going into work full time, but when I built my PC about three years ago I wanted to get back into my drawing and editing, which I have! First thing I did was look for any program that wasn't adobe, their name still brings up bile in the back of my throat. I'm now using a host of other more pleasant applications depending on what type of project I decide to hyperfocus on and never go back to xD

[Beepsterr]

I Honestly love the way JetBrains handles subscriptions. When you pay for a year, you get to keep that years version of the software as a perpetual fallback license, So if you stop paying for updates you can just keep using it "as is"

[Driftwood]

You already paid for this in a sense. Shouldn't need to pay a subscription on top. Piracy is better than daylight robbery from these companies

[oldplace]

We've actually transitioned out of pantones a while back due to Adobe's previous Pantone issue where you could get two different shades of the same Pantone. After that we switched to CMYK swatches for better reliability and consistency. Both of these companies have long lost any faith I had them.

[PlasmaFuzer]

Excellent points. I miss the days when you could just buy a piece of software, install it, and use it as you saw fit until YOU decided you wanted to upgrade. The reason for the software as a service model is strictly for control. They don't want to relinquish control of their software to the user because the user may do something they don't want.

As you pointed out, many software producers restructured purchasing from a direct transfer into a lease. They did this so that they could retain all the rights as the true owner and can subject you to any and all of the ToS they come up with, "subject to change at lessor's discretion" (often without notice). This isn't going to stop anytime soon so the only question is, what's next?

[NightWolfx]

I wish more people would see the dangers of using subscription services over owning a product. It's a slippery slope, and we aren't gaining any ground.

[Muggy]

A couple good Adobe Alternatives:

Photoshop -> Affinity
Lightroom -> Capture One
Premiere -> Davinci Resolve (This is free to boot, at least for the majority of users who don't need certain features.)

I'm sure there's more but that's what I'm familiar with personally.

[Michael]

to me, a perpetual license is software that is stored on non-erasable physical media and does not require an internet in order to function from the initial version included on the media while you are able to archive update data.

[LankaKera]

Stupidest thing I learnt in design school was that Pantone chooses trend colors - sometimes over year in advance, so they can sell the books to designers. So much for a trend..