Liberalism's Great Flaw

Or: Why I am a liberal but not a progressive.

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[tombo]

Ah, yes, the greatest liberal philosopher of our time: Todd Howard. "It just works."

[fancyelk]

Turning color blindness from a concept to strive for into a racist concept is the greatest crime of modern politics. Regressing all the progress we'd made as a country.

[TJK]

My mind has been rotted by memes — I can’t think of the term “Liberal” without immediately seeing a biker skeleton holding two glocks, pointing them at the viewer while talking about being born to shit, yet forced to wipe.
Truly, the West has fallen.

[ArkhaosGR]

To quote Richard Feynman:
"If [your theory] disagrees with experiment, it's wrong."
Doesn't matter how great your philosophy sounds, put it to the test.

[jackMeought-frvl]

Rousseau strikes me as a man who's never been to a rural area. Nature doesn't provide a damn thing walk into the forest and you have to work 24/7 to just eat, and the isolated individuals in nature die.
I can't believe this man was ever taken seriously with this idea that was completely divorced from reality.

[mrbloodmuffins]

Finally a video that's not tiktok Tuesdays. I enjoy those but your focused videos are better.

[remoman]

I don’t know who said the quote, but it went something like this ‘ traditions are answers to problems that you forgot we ever had’.

[Smilomaniac]

James Lindsay unfortunately failed to separate his online persona from himself and became emotional. This is how you lose the war, by making strangers of friends.

[imperiallegionnaire]

The problem with current American politics is that the Liberal party sees no value in the Conservatives and this led to a positive feedback loop causing the Conservatives to become more anti Liberal and the Liberals becoming more corrupted by Socialist thought.

[SL]

That first "conversation" between Sargon and James... it's what I hate about Twitter: A back and forth of "nuh-uh" - "yuh-uh" with some insults thrown in, instead of exchanging actual ARGUMENTS.

[Fiddleslip]

Locke greatly overestimated how reasonable humans are

[matsanw]

Looks to me as if Carl means "while it's not the same, the small cracks in Liberal theory made Communist theory possible", while James Lindsay means "Communism theory is not compatible with old Liberal theory, therefore they are completely separate and should not be compared".
It's a healthy debate and both views are valid imo, but too bad it's so one-sided. I wish James would stop being smug about it and just make a proper response. I'm sure it would enrich the debate for all of us.

[Day_bender]

>because it just works
>Collapses from lack of children
Pottery

[Aravanus]

"Seperation of church and state" isn't just to protect one or the other, its to allow a domain for both liberalism and conservatism to occupy and thus coexist without one dominating the other. We have strayed from this and we suffer as a result

To be clear, I say this as not a theist and not as a suggestion that everyone needs to go be Catholic or something.

[ShakerSilver]

I think a lot of this disagreement boils down to how truthful you think the socialists are in being successors to the liberal ideals the most of west used to be pretty much in agreement on. Carl's argues that people were naturally conditioned to socialism in the west because of those ideals of equity and liberty while Lindsay's argument is that it's a more subversive and deceitful process to hide the anti-liberal contradictions of the socialists.

Something to note is that Marx was in fact wrong that the Communist revolutions would take place in places like London, they instead took place in anti-liberal nations like Russia. However does a violent revolution overthrowing the old order really speak to a nation's natural ideological progression? Compare this to the West's slow but sure stretching of the Overton window to make progressive and socialist talking points and policy more prevalent without the need for revolution.

[joemayo]

Nature doesn't provide. It is just there and what we need must be taken.

[piedpipr]

You have summarized my exact way I thought just liberalism was and the way I actually think. I agree with you 100% that we need some conservatism.

[knottheory]

I've said for a long time if you actually understand the terms, you can easily be a liberal and a conservative at the same time.

[InfamyOrDeath-__-]

Liberalisms great flaw is that it has Dev as a follower of the ideology, dragging it down. 😂

[sovietunion]

18:18 explaining how socialists may view liberalism really showed me the problem with socialists viewing everything through the lens of class and oppression in the same way modern progressives view everything through race, gender, and also oppression.

you can't only look at things through how society could oppress people as that narrows the view down far too much for that view to be very applicable to the real world. viewing every inequality as always something that is societal and unfair doesn't work. men and women are going to have different outcomes as men are stronger than women. thats not societal oppression thats biological fact, yet a modern progressive might say that gender is a social construct and as such men and women can do exactly the same work. we've seen the folly of this in trans athletes playing in women's sports and absolutely dominating.

you can't look at society through one pre picked lens as you will miss the trees while trying to see the forest as you always say in the video