Detail Diatribe: Redeeming 'Revenge of the Sith'

"Always two [Detail Diatribes] there are, no more, no less. A master, and an apprentice." -Darth Sorbius
Red and Blue are back to talk more about Star Wars!

Relevant media, in order:
"Star War The Third Gathers: Backstroke of the West", it's available in pieces on YouTube because of copyright goblins, but you can find compilations easily
Genndy Tartakovsky's "Clone Wars", Disney+
"Star Wars: The Clone Wars", Disney+
"Obi-Wan Kenobi", Disney +
The Blackened Mantle, (It's available online with a quick google, I had a link here but it got internet-hug-of-death'd, sorry :( If it's not working, try again in a couple days)

Music, in order of appearance:
"Where the Nekkos Roam" and "Pilgrim's Path" and "Nova Garon" from "Star Wars Jedi: Survivor" OST by Gordy Haab

Chapters:
0:00:00 – Intro
0:00:54 – A (less than) thrilling episode
0:07:10 – Game Time Started
0:09:29 – 2003 Clone Wars (my beloved)
0:13:42 – 3D Clone Wars (lets Anakin be Messy)
0:20:23 – The Siege of Mandalore (is the good kind of terrifying)
0:24:47 – Kenobi Show (gives us delicious angst)
0:30:38 – Battle of Heroes (is good clean heartbreak)
0:33:34 – From My Point Of View The Prequels Are Enjoyable
0:40:16 – Revenge of the Sith Novelization (is extremely good)
1:03:07 – Kurosawa Mode
1:06:22 – The Blackened Mantle (is extremely fun)
1:21:28 – Conclusion

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[OverlySarcasticProductions]

Available for the rest of the weekend!
-B

[Anergyne]

When Red mentions how nobody cares about Rebel Moon, I was like 'oh yeah, Rebel Moon is a thing', because I had forgotten it exists.
And then, about a minute later, when she mentions it again, I was like 'Oh yeah, Rebel Moon is a thing', because I had *already* forgotten it exists.

[SlothWithShades]

"Why did they fight in lava?" Well, my answer is: Because they show the saviour figures descent into quite literal hell. One drags the other down. And only one climbs back out watching his former friend being consumed by literal flames of hatred. Not subtle. But very effective.

[SirAsdf]

If Red's brain is split into three ways between Miyazaki References, ReBoot References, and Last Airbender References. Blue's brain is split the same way between Venice, Domes, and Star Wars memes.

[kellylogs]

The sentence "everybody is a hero, nobody is enough" for the clone wars has absolutely floored me because, yes, holy hell, THAT. Everyone in that show, all the jedi, clones, side characters, even many of the villains; every single one of them is at the top of their game. They are all living out their finest hours, all becoming the versions of themselves that will echo across time, but it's not enough. It was never going to be enough. They were, every last one of them, doomed from the word go.

[SleNtRIP]

“Though it is the end of the age of heroes, it has saved it’s best for last.” Fuck me that goes so hard!

[jesselichte]

Remember kids, Anakin can't violate the Geneva Convention because there's no Geneva in Star Wars

[z.joy.z]

56:54 What Padme says is actually "So this is how *liberty* dies." The republic is not being killed from without. It's the democracy turned against itself, that's why there's thunderous applause.

[Domesthenes]

One of the things that I love about the novelization is that it actually gives another reason for Anakin's suspect decision making: he had not been sleeping, and had been using the force to sustain himself, so he wouldn't have to see the visions of Padme dying.

[StevetheWizard]

This entire 1.5+ hour conversation just has me thinking of the truly classic phrase:
"Star Wars would be so good if it was actually good."

[Noxshade]

It's me! I'm a person who read the novelization before the movie as wee child, and definitely colored my perception of Episode 3 for a very long time, because I can never not imagine the added context and weight that the novel added to each scene. Even as a beaten-down adult Star Wars fan I hold a much higher opinion of Revenge of the Sith than the movie itself perhaps deserves. It was so liberating to hear about the dragon and the framing device of the light and dark again after so many years.
I'll add one more amazing bit that the novel has: there a recurring line "This is how it feels like to be Anakin Skywalker right now" that shows up whenever the narration delves into his head whenever he does something incredible, like landing the front half of the Invisible Hand or flying a Jedi Starfighter (which is implied to be a kind of superhuman feat to control.) This is the passage that describes him waking up on the slab after Mustifar:
This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker, forever:
You can hear yourself breathing. It comes hard, and harsh, and it scrapes nerves already raw, but you cannot stop it.
You can never stop it. You cannot even slow it down. You don't even have lungs anymore.
Mechanisms hardwired into your chest breathe for you. They will pump oxygen into your bloodstream, forever.

[Marb]

the problem with insisting the movie works better if you turn off the sound is that if you do that you can't hear john williams

[elizaripper]

I love the fact that doing Detail Diatribes leads to even more Detail Diatribes. It’s the best kind of media analysis rabbit hole. ❤💙✨

[fallingskymedia]

"This story happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. It is already over. Nothing can be done to change it." is gonna be a line that keeps me up at night, and would've given kid me several nightmares if I read it.

[camdenwjenkins]

"The Subtlety is Not a Plothole" needs to be a t-shirt design. (Done by Red and Blue specifically for THEIR store. No t-tshirt bots, please)

[MoonatikYT]

27:08 Andor is so good that it doesn't even register in Blue's brain as a Disney+ show.

[tomgymer]

I have not read the book, but I already knew the "The dark is generous, and it is patient, and it always wins - but in the heart of its strength lies weakness: one lone candle is enough to hold it back.
Love is more than a candle.
Love can ignite the stars." part of it, because it came up as a powerful quote, and I was like, this is from a Star Wars novelization??? Truly it sounds very impressive and I may need to read it now.

[wheres.wolfgang]

“White phosphorus we must deploy” took me tf out

[cebenify]

Anakin is at his best when the writer brings out the Vader in him.
Vader is at his best when the writer brings out the Anakin in him.

[ufofighter]

OSP: "Have you heard the tale of the Revenge of the Sith novelization? It's not a tale the Jedi would tell you"