Horizontal To Vertical Shaft Engine Conversion Problems

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[charlesstull]

My 21 hp Briggs and Stratton is 13 years old. Never had a problem with it . She still mows like a champ.

[redneckbryon]

Something that needs to be mentioned, if the oil cooler is what controls how much oil goes into a horizontal or vertical shaft engine, something you need to remember that part is interchangeable between the two engines and it's found on both.

[hotrodj]

As a machinist. It is possible to elongate the entier cover so it is deeper and put the bearing boss's in the correct places and heights with the correct tolerances so you dont even need to use a bearing. You need a +or- 1 guy lol of course this would mean a complete billet pan.

[brandonfloyd]

Maybe a oil tank below engine that holds the oil and a electric pump that shoots the oil through a orfice threaded into the (was bottom) of the block thats pointed towards the bottom of crank and connecting rod and it will sling the oil throughout. Essentially a dry sump oil system.

[sparewashers-lggf]

I wonder if you could use a map gas torch/oxyacetylene torch and fill the oil plugs with a brazing rod and tap them for a regular pipe plug that could run the oil cooler on one side or a drain.

[jeeper]

Power steering pump as oil pump might work, and it'll work without 12v power or charging systemp

[redneckracing.]

you could use a suzuki m120x engine, commonly found in toro ccr2000 snowblowers. they can turn 6000+ stock, and 7500 with port work. they have a motorcycle style crankshaft, with as forged rod. indestructable...

[crazzyearl]

As far as a spacer you could take a square picture of the pan import to cad scale it with known dimensions cad out the spacers and order it cut from the correct thickness from send cut send or osh cut willing to help if needed

[mabronstevenson]

One problem spacing the cam would change where the lobes touch on lifters if the lobes didn't hit case they would unevenly hit lifters and probably bend them causing the big boom 💥 then 😭

[jesusischrist]

So what your saying is it'll run better when low on oil 😂😂😂 im kidding but seriously though if that cam gear is say ¼ of the way covered in oil (so it reduces resistance from splashing in too much oil) while extending the oil splasher and moving the sump or oil pump (what have you ) from the side to the bottom with a rubber hose going up the side of the NEW side of the engine( the old bottom ) so it sprays oil up and on the cam, would that work ??? Reason im asking is because i am in the beginning stages of converting the BS 20hp intek off a craftsman LT1000 from a vertical to a horizontal shaft for one of my gocarts.... If its not possible or well not worth it then i have several other options like a 15hp sideshaft, 2 different gy6150's ( one is already on it already and runs fine but i want more power) and then again i have many other smalll motors to try but im also in the process of building a polaris-6000 68/63 440 two stroke to put on my other gocart but im not a patient person😂😂😂😂 so im going through motors trying to figure out whats the most reliable vs more powerful=more fun but for longer 😂 motors while my 440 is being built .... Im eventually going to put the 440 polaris6000 on it but im trying to find other fast snd powerful motors to play with on my other ones in the meantime... So once again can i not just extend the sump hose to spray the cam and run a little less oil for les resistance or no ??


Edit : autocorrect either changes things or it doesnt do anything at all 😂

[robertskelton]

What is the difference in the oiling in 19-21 hp engines and the lower hp engines?

[donald]

Hello from Don, let's try this horizontal shaft diesel engine that running, We need to add on vertical housing same way 90° drill run in tight spot to drill hole, Have to add on 2 spider gears ⚙️ just like in cars differential, gears get oiled by pump. This way we have diesel engine horizontal shaft running vertical shaft ( under stand) my point thought

[Redneckmowers]

I’ve been thinking of making a mod motor like u did expect I wanna put some new parts for performance now I have a question if I where to put stiffer valve spring could I run it like that or would I have to put roller rockers and a stiffer rod. I’m also going to buy a 3D printer to do like u did

[rotorcats]

Pretty big challenge. I'd imagine oil level needs to be below the cylinder also. If not, the oil would get past the rings hydrolock the piston and also burn if you do get it started.

[evil_me]

For a drain, just use a fitting in the valve cover and run a hose to the block cover. If you have honda cover there is a fitting that has the same threads as the dipstick and a hose barb on the other side.

Fitting, search for "Metric M20X2.5 Male to 3/4" barb"

[billhacks]

dry sump oil system with a pump would be easier than trying to extend the pan.

[markschilling]

I think you're running into more problems than it's worth doing. I hope it works out for you. I have a challenge if you are interested. Turning a four-stroke Briggs into a 2 stroke engine.

[Lawnmowerman]

Kohler makes an old flat head that's universal you just need to change the carb

[Lawnmowerman]

Look for a vertical shaft sump off a Chinesium engine from a log splitter or push mower . That said even if you machine a spacer it would need to be done from a billet of aluminum on a CNC machine or fabricated in a welding shop then machined . Then you have to address the crankshaft being too short . Can you make a horizontal engine run in a vertical position ? Absolutely, for how long or how much power that's the question . Now if you used an old school Briggs or Tecumseh I don't think you'd have a problem . Now what's machine work and fab work cost ? plus materials
Just rebuild that crusty old Briggs motor on the floor and re drill it to raise the oil pressure and it won't explode if you change the head gasket frequently and keep the oil full .

[giovannilemaster]

Rtv black, (good stuff gasket maker). Thanks! Appreciate you videos.