The Eyes: Noita’s Strangest Unsolved Mystery

Join me as we take a deep-dive into the mysterious Noita eye glyph cipher that has remained unsolved years later!
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Thanks for watching, I hope you enjoyed :)
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00:00 - Introduction
00:50 - What is Noita?
01:50 - Environmental Storytelling
02:40 - New... Secrets?
03:31 - Intentional or Error?
05:15 - Parallel Worlds??!?
06:05 - The Eyes.
07:01 - Trigrams and Values
07:50 - Community Progress
09:32 - PAM-5
11:44 - 3 E-mails by Hidden Secret.
16:21 - Important Details
17:23 - The Calm Before The Storm
19:13 - The 5 Eyes
20:12 - Eyes of Noita Investigation
21:53 - Fifth Eye
23:04 - Dawn of the Final Day
24:25 - An Explanation
29:11 - Vanished
32:27 - The QnA Session
35:11 - Conclusion
35:49 - THESE PEOPLE ARE AMAZING OMG HOLY MOLY LOOK AT THEM!!
36:06 - SUBSCRIBBE + Real Talk
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#glowhno #noita #mystery #unsolvedmysteries #arg #cipher #roguelite

[glowhno]

i really hope i got at least one person at 32:30 lmao

[toboterxp]

Hi, I'm one of the people that spent a lot of time on the eye puzzle, and wanted to point out that the devs haven't in fact confirmed whether the eyes are solvable. They've confirmed they are a message, but there is no guarantee whether that message is actually recoverable.

Otherwise, a great video on the whole HS saga! It captures the whole insanity of that week pretty nicely.

[nathanpfirman]

This is something I don't think people realize. A very smart online community not being able to solve something in a game is absurdly impressive for the devs.

[fabiant.]

I know of a single method that could solve the riddle for sure, albeit morally questionable: Social Engineering
Find out where Petri lives, become his neighbor/work colleague/inlaw or something similarly close. slowly work your way into becoming a trusted friend, then one day get him drunk enough for him to confide the secret. 😂

[limmkey]

"Yeah just complete this list of functionally impossible and semantically vague steps." "No I didn't actually figure it out it was um... my friend actually." "Yeah the code is like... 3d runes and stuff, for real bro... but also no I can't reveal anything about deciphering the code because that would RUIN EVERYTHING." "You want me to give just a single person proof? Ummm.... [disappears]"

Bro was really acting like the walking stereotype of the kid who makes up video game secrets and then acts like other people are dumb for not figuring them out. I agree with the sentiment of the "Remember to be kind" message, but based on what I've seen I don't agree with the idea that HS was just making a fun ARG game. Obviously nobody should harass them or attack their character, but judging a person's actions is absolutely fair game. Unless I'm entirely wrong and they really did know about some secret that the community still hasn't figured out with more than a year of time and all kinds of hints, this is my take:

HS exploited the success created by hard work and passion from multiple indie developers, piggybacking on it to launch what seems to be a personal creative project, their ARG. This is sketchy enough on its own, but not inherently wrong if treated as just a fan project. However, the project itself is just artistically broken — their dumb ARG couldn't have possibly had a satisfying ending. They were making shit up about a game they had no control over. Nobody could ever have found out "the answer" because it's not in the damned game. So they've already failed artistically by creating a puzzle with no solution, but that isn't the worst part. What's worse is that they've irrevocably tied their shitty ARG to a beloved and amazing indie game in the process.

What's so wrong is the blatant refusal to own up. If they had ever admitted, "Yeah I was making things up, but it's all in good fun right?" then it would at least show respect for the original product they're riding the coattails of. But the fact that, to the end, they've staunchly insisted that it was all real shows a disgraceful lack of respect for the giants on who's shoulders HS sat. Imagine if George R.R. Martin retired before completing A Song of Ice and Fire, and then someone comes along to post their fanfiction and they claim it's actually a secret manuscript they found in his dumpster that wraps up all the loose threads and ends ASOIAF. To me, that feels no different from what happened here. You can enjoy that fanfiction, and even be happy about the discussions it creates, but the actions of the creator should still be condemned for being disrespectful and selfish.

Ultimately, speaking as someone who hasn't worked on the eye puzzle, I can't offer a first person opinion about this matter, but it just seems deeply unfortunate that this is something that they'll have to deal with. If I was spending hours on the eyes and thought we were so close to solving them, only for the rug to be pulled out, I'd probably lose all interest. It's a leech on a community puzzle-solving effort which can only be fully removed when the eye puzzle finally is finished, which would be well after the damage is done.

[Contextallion]

Being a part of the search during the whole HS thing was unfortunate, and actually trying the "run" was very unfun and angeringly lead nowhere, and would be near fully impossible. It was infuriating, but I learned a lot about savefile editing from the experience. Definitely would not say it was fun finding out it was a fake out.
As a last, lighter note, I'm glad more attention is being shone on this seemingly impossible cipher

[jayjasespud]

It'd be great if the devs could just say whether the ARG was official or not.

[ericopenscards]

Hearing about the mystery like this, getting the full story, plus a gamejacker thrown in actually makes me feel less like joining in unfortunately. Now I know that a lot of people much smarter than me have been throwing themselves at this puzzle for a long time, and some community members have thrown in red herrings on top of that. What could I possibly add?

[idontlikegoogle]

i looked into this for a couple of hours. seems to be a homophonic substitution cipher akin to the Copiale cipher. this is because out of the 125 possibilities for the trigrams, only 83 of them are ever used across all the messages. the Copiale cipher had 90 characters but 7 of them were used to describe entire concepts and didn't translate into characters, so you had 83 unique translatable characters, exactly like the noita cipher

also, the Copiale cipher turned out to be some sort of secret guide book for a society of eye doctors. it's cheeky but the eye theme also is a significant coincidence between the two

this would explain why it's been difficult to solve it even with an entire nerd community behind it, as the Copiale cipher remained unsolved for over 200 years, and was only cracked after years of trial and error and computer assistance. i personally believe this is a better lead to solving this than all the ARG emails coming from utter nobodies and all the dumb "maybe the eyes are DNA molecules or the spin of an electron" suggestions lmao

[PixelOverload]

35:02 sure, that's fair enough i guess, but creating an ARG about a solution to a puzzle in a video game you have nothing to do with and didn't even solve yourself and don't actually understand in the first place is just not an ARG, it's a scam, and they _literallly_ brought any hate they got upon themselves by blatantly scamming an entire community

[pitori.]

5:25 but before that we need to talk about parallel universes

[robonator]

9:00 who the fuck made the document in R34 green

[Starfloofle]

On one of Fury's videos about the cauldron, someone made a comment that really stood out to me.
They said that the cauldron room's shape resembles a waveform.
We also know that even digging around in the game's code has not yet revealed the method that creates these things.
Recently, I extracted all of Noita's sound effects, because, well, I collect sound effects, and I discovered something... unusual? When I play its .ogg files, my media player of choice ends many sound effects earlier than their displayed runtime, exactly halfway in fact.
I believe that this might not be coincidence or error. I don't have the tools or expertise to do so, but I have a hunch that code, or parameters to read with code, is nested into the sound effects of the game's files, which it uses to generate these unusual parts of worldgen.
I haven't ran any comprehensive tests on the idea yet, but one hunch I've had that could confirm or deconfirm this fairly quickly would be to replace every single sound effect in the game with a blank, silent sound effect, and see if these things change. If nothing changes, perhaps it is wholly unrelated. ...But if they suddenly stop generating, or generate strangely... Then there's one hell of a lead, don't you think?

[monkehm]

"ARGs are quite difficult to run, please be kind" Except she didn't create shit, she just hijacked a game developer's secret puzzle and lead a bunch of people around for a week with her pretentious nonsense????

[-_Alyssia_-]

The HS thing is just completely unbelievable lol idk how anyone fell for it

[Carlos-Karl]

The supposed run is theoretically possible, you can obtain all stones without spells or killing anything, it’s possible to obtain the seed(although I’m not sure if killing the boss with acid will count as a player kill), it’s possible to explode the sun seed and sacrifice mobs too without doing it yourself. Unfortunately it would take way too much time, I estimate that it would take me 3-5 days, and that is if saves are allowed and they don’t affect in discovering the secret.

[invisiblenobodyman]

Something I keep finding myself drawn to as I find information on the eyes is that they are possibly music. The notes for the Kantele look like they fit with the 5 eye states but I'm good enough at the game to actually collect the item myself lol

[nram]

This sounds fun, I'm sure I'll develop a completely rational and healthy relationship with this mystery.

[Vek]

I remember this week very well. I never participated much in the solving of the eyes - I think I would be more of a hurdle than anything - but the HS event just made me participate. It was a crazy week. I was at uni back then and rememeber I had troubles falling asleep as I was worried that I would miss a revelation or something.
Even got 2 answers from HS myself!
I really wanted this to lead us anywhere and it is a bummer that it all was just an ARG, but hey, the emotions I had during that time were wonderful, and even the sleepless nights are memories that to this day I am fond of c:

[laggingdragons]

Never played this but has anyone ever tried mapping the eyes from both worlds across multiple seeds and seeing if they overlap? Might be useful info in that.