Revelation Chapter 12 - A Historicist Interpretation

This video is a study of Revelation Chapter 12 verses 1 to 5. It reviews the historical application from an Eastern Orthodox perspective (i.e. neo-historicism, i.e. Eastern Orthodox Historicism).

[pauldmckee]

I'm not convinced that God's hand was in the modern day nation of Israel being restored. What do you think. I don't see scripture saying he would after destroying it in 70 ad.

[Holestic_Honesty]

What is the most in depth revelation commentary by a orthodox author do you think.

[karens]

The Ark of the testament in heaven is not the virgin mary.. before this Ark of the testament is seen, the woman is described as going into the wilderness. This woman does not represent Mary in heaven, it represents israelites converted to christianity going out in the wilderness, which always represents the beginning of a new movement if God. The israelites in the wilderness before becoming a nation. Jesus in the wilderness 40 days before the start if his ministry. The woman represents the Jewish Christians in the wilderness before Christianity can practice in peace. It's the beginning of the Christian church. So the Ark does not represent the woman. She is in the wilderness. This woman in the wilderness by the way...later is shown to John as becoming a powerful harlot riding the beast.. the anti christ apostate Christianity. The false Christianity that mixes with government and rides the Beast. Influences and directs world kings. The catholic church.

[SincerelyoursYah]

God Almighty does not have a mother. To assert such is blasphemy. Repent.

[gwayne]

All those that believed the gospel before Jesus work were saved. "Jesus came to save those under the law from the curse of the law" They were under the law! "Sin was of the law" Sin was the trespass of the law" The law was a "curse" that you have never been under.Stop reading the letters written to people 2000 years ago now compiled in a mistranslated book like they were addressed to you. To Timothy, to the Thessalonians, to the seven churches... When Jesus was talking and said YOU, he had an audience, when Paul was talking then, he was talking to someone then in real time, not in letters written 2000 years ago . When they said you, we, they, .. they were talking to and about people then .They were sinners, not us. Sin was of the law, sin was the curse of the law, sin was the trespass of the law, and how hard is it to see that sin was then and not now, that sin was for those living under the law? Tradition is not truth, but you are believing it. Preachers in this day teaching the reverse of what the Bible they say they love are not truth. The complete reversal of what Jesus and the apostles taught us exactly what you believe . How can you be a sinner when the law is gone, when your Bible says Jesus came to put away sin. You are calling all they said a lie, and the Bible a lie. You are trying to live a life that already occured almost 2000 years ago before Jesus. You are a sinner? Jesus put away sin. Sinners go to hell? Hell was cast into the lake of fire. You are under the curse of the law? The law has been gone. Ask yourself, what do I need to be saved from according to the Bible. Then take a look at your Bible and you will see that Jesus already ended it. The curse of Adam gone as Jesus opened the way back to God for us, taken away by the fall. The law? Jesus fulfilled the law and it completely ended when the temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Sin was of the law. Why so hard to understand. You are believing a book not to you or about you comprised of letters written 2000 years ago, to people then. For people then. You would be amazed how doctrine that pretend Christians argue constantly about falls right together when you get rid of the futuristic George Jetzen type beliefs.Think about things like Jesus saying, the gospel will be preached to the ends of earth then the end will come. Well shortly after that your Bible says that the gospel went to the ends of the earth, and the end did come. The end of the age, the law, sin.. .Now to what "Christians" for some reason push to the side. In your Bibles, plain as day but you want to go back in time before Jesus and live under sin and the law . We have been God, through Jesus reconciled the world back to himself. No more first Adam, no more law, no more sin, and no vail between us and God, and guess what. You spit at it and want to go back in time and live under a curse. It's crazy. You have been lied to and are living the lie. We have been reconciled, and after Jesus finished his work he returned to heaven, submitted himself to God, TURNED THE KINGDOM BACK TO GOD, and now GOD IS ALL AND IN ALL.Jesus not get given Gods power and authority forever, but after his work submitted himself and turned it back over . That is from your Bible. All and in all. We have a God conscience, and we absolutely Know the difference between good and evil. Evil cannot and will not enter heaven. Goodness and truth will .Sin was of the law and the flesh and was put away by Jesus. Evil of the heart has been forever and always will be. God has always judged evil and always will. Sin was temporary and of the law.All in your Bible. Every bit of what is written. You are living in the past, and if you really think Jesus has saved people after his work, then you are spitting on the Bible and saying Jesus death and blood were worthless and did not put away sin then as the Bible says. We have been reconciled, the world has, but there is still evil and good as has always been and always judged. Jesus opened that door back to God again for us and we are to go in and worship God only now. We are to get our truths from God only now. Pray only to God now.Just as has always been the case. Jesus finished his work. He is to reign on David's throne forever, not God's, over the house of Jacob. God reigns now and always will. I believe all that Jesus and the apostles said, not just bits and pieces and sin was put away clearly before we existed. You were never in need of being saved from your sin because it was already gone. Of the law! The separation from God and curse of Adam is . Flee evil and do good. Trust God for revelation, not a book that Jesus said himself he fulfilled. He said himself he fulfilled all things written and Christians want to go back, give up all of what Jesus did and pretend they are under sin and the law. It is crazy. Flee evil, do good, and go to God only. It dropped me to my knees when I learned the truth, because of what had been burned into my conscience forever. Truth is truth and stays truth. Get out of the past and the evil of modern "Christianity" which is not at all Christianity. They blaspheme God with every doctrine they believe constantly and have zero power the church with the Holy Spirit had in Jesus day. None. Living in and for the past when you can go straight to God is evil in itself. Flee evil, do good and trust God.