Bad Creationist Genetics: “Adam and Eve could not have lived 200,000 years ago!”

Rather than cover the nuts and bolts of mutation vs. substitution rates (again), we're gonna talk about what Rob Carter didn't: The data that allow us to directly test (and invalidate) the YEC claims.

Dr. Carter, if you're going to respond, as you indicated you might (and I hope you do), please address the referenced work.

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[Cat_Woods]

I appreciate your direct confrontation of the misinformation. We need more of that, and more people need to be armed with the counter-arguments to deal with these people who spread misinformation for a living.

[grantpritchard]

Thanks. I love these presentations of pure scientific evidence that refute the nonsense religions hold on to.

[Shipfish]

love the "newscaster" presentation style on this one. very informative, i watched twice so i made sure i understood! thank you for the vid

[MattJGT]

Thanks for doing these videos! I don't have a bio background to understand what they are doing wrong in their research, but your explanations make it obvious.

[scottduke]

Thanks for the great presentation, @Creation Myths!

[lidbass]

This is very interesting. I will try to include this in my future evolution teaching to help my students understand how slow the mechanism actually is. Thank you

[buddnd]

Thanks so much for the information. I make a note of each and every piece of irrefutable evidence that you give us. I have a folder for just a few of the most common YEC claims on my phone. Ready to refute their nonsense whenever I come across it.

[Science_Always_Wins]

Under appreciated channel. Science overload. You bring the aron ra videos together like lamb and tunafish

[ethelredhardrede]

They need to ignore them because they cannot explain them, except the usual way. Its a miracle.

[LanceHall]

Nothing in Creationism makes sense except in the light of lying.

[EdwardHowton]

"If I make up some bullshit math to conveniently arrive at my desired conclusion and don't bother checking against anything else and ignore the entirety of reality knowing none of the idiots I'm going to be selling my bullshit to, I can express what a good and faithful servant to God I am and win a prize of immortality!" -Jeanson fucking christ.

[valeried]

Dr. Dan, I read through the y-chromosome Tristan da Cunha paper. I could easily be misunderstanding something, but it looks like they were only checking a set of markers (they list them, also figure 1) and there was no full sequencing going on. This paper is almost 20 years old, so that makes sense. (I''m guessing you just found it.) But if it's only checking a very small set of markers, of course they're not going to find additional mutations! What say you?

[chadmoore]

A couple of things from my research. <I am a PE in Electrical Engineering ...so not a trained Geneticist --- but spends hours a week studying it as a hobby> I have collected full YDNA and mtDNA of relatives close and distant. When I tabulate the mutations I see upwards of 5-6 between 3 generations in my own family, yes I have studied other people's data and found some with 0 in a like time frame... it is variable However I have noted and seen there is a higher likely rate of mutation in an older father having a child ...for example if a man has a son when he is 20 then another when he is 40, the rate of mutations increases and is more I have only collected a small amount of data ...not near enough for an all out study...but I see this between siblings that are say 5 years apart with the same father. I'd reference the Xi study of Chinese men for 2009 that suggests a higher rate and that is based on men of the same lineage after a 13 generation separation...the end YDNA samples have a substantial # of mutations from one over. As far as mtDNA that does change at a slow rate..in fact I am looking at a heteroplasmy that may be taking a few generations to resolve itself....wish now I had all my grandmother and aunts DNA for studying

[hglundahl]

6:26 Are you just saying that, to have Noah and last common female ancestor of his three daughters in law 5000 years back, there would have to been a period when mutation rates were way higher than now?

Because, if so, you have just saved my dissent from other YECs on yet another point.

The 350 years after the Flood, C14 increased by a production rate 10 times higher than the present, ionising particles hastened the onset of an Ice Age ending c. 350 after the Flood, life spans lowered for those born later in this time (and continued to do that up to Abraham, even if production rate of C14 was only 6 times the present one), AND without this, _we would not have enough mutations to account for human variations?_

Lovely as a Christmas present!

Thank you!

[excelsior]

Wouldn't the YEC Y Chromosome earliest date be 2304 B.C. when the entire homo sapiens sample was reduced to one Y chromosome passed to three descendants: Noah and the copy of Noah's Y chromosome passes to his three sons?

[RustyWalker]

_“Adam and Eve could not have lived 200, 000 years ago!”_
Technically, of course, they couldn't be more right. Adam and Eve couldn't have lived 200k years ago, because they're mythological and mythological people never lived at any point in the past.

[vishwakumar]

Please add "join" button to this channel. Since I cannot become a patreon member due to card issues, I atleast wanna contribute by becoming a youtube member.

[laurajarrell]

Great video. Understandable by anyone! 👍🌊💙💙💙🌊🥰✌

[scienceexplains]

Creation Myths, You’re talking about accumulating mutations, correct?
Because otherwise, a mutation I have can reverse a mutation my parents had, right?

[cicik]

is it in non-selected regions, right?