Why Does Everyone Hate On {Ubuntu/Manjaro/Systemd}?

Have you ever visited a Linux-related chat room, forum or sub-reddit and noticed how much hate certain projects receive? You may have used some of these "hated" projects and liked them, which naturally makes you wonder, "Why all the hate?!" Let's discuss...

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[vVertii]

As a Ubuntu user I'm still hating Ubuntu. It's a habit.

[lorduggae]

I think a bunch of the Manjaro hate started when Garuda and Endeavor showed up. People jumped to the new shiny. There's an old saying in advertising "When you want to sell a new product, make the old product look bad." You see it all the time. New detergent comes out and the adverts say "that old detergent is most water and doesn't really get your clothes clean. So buy ours, cause it's new"

[josemonge]

I use Ubuntu, and always think to myself about this: "Who gives a sh!t?"

[TheRandomFool]

I don't care if some people hate Manjaro. It suits my needs and adds more useful things on top of Arch. I also like that they hold back updates a little longer for the sake of stability.

[tomaintaround]

Yeah popularity really is a factor, but it’s more like a multiplier. All of those software you said do have some valid reasons for being disliked, and THEN the popularity multiplies that. I think popularity being a multiplier here really fits because I think if theoretically some software does nothing wrong, they won’t get *valid* hate, no matter how popular they are, because no matter how big a number is, every number times 0 is still 0.

[ozerune]

The only thing that I don't like about Ubuntu is the forced snaps. Aside from that I think it's fine.

[ringo]

No one hates Linux more than Linux users, it seems. Lately Mint is the favorite whipping boy for a lot of the community for reasons I don't quite get.

[leopardsbasketball]

Not at all the video I was expecting to get, but gained massive value from this message. Thank you

[Playboipete]

ppl are haters pain and simple. and are attracted to it as well. i mean even respecting or admiring something/someone is looked down upon in the internet while criticizing or being negative or controversy is rewarded. unfortunate but who am i to say

[techcafe]

Well, ubuntu gets hate, because they keep doing things to piss off their user base. Manjaro gets hate because the devs quite often do some really dumb shit. Not all the hate these distros get, is undeserved. They've earned their hate for the most part.

[noferblatz]

I would take exception on systemd. There are a number of technical reasons that systemd deserves criticism. I couldn't care less whether it's popular or not. It has some down sides. I still use it, but I wish I didn't have to.

[_sneer_]

My story: I've been a BSD/Linux user for over two decades. Used Fedora on my workstation/gaming PC for last couple of years, RHEL and Ubuntu server on my servers. Since RHEL drama I migrated my servers to Slackware, deleted RHEL and swapped Fedora for Cinnamon Mint. I am not a fan of systemd, because I think it is too bloated and slow for lower end or older hardware (that's why I use Devuan on my laptop). Ubuntu is a great distro, but I cannot trust it with all the telemetry and stuff going on. Manjaro broke upon first system update after installation. No hate, simple use cases.

[HikingFeral]

I think Ubuntu and Mint are fantastic, I'm using Arch based stuff right now but they can both be just as powerful as vanilla Arch. They just so happen to be far easier to get into. It's not cool to have a bad installation so I really don't know where some Arch users get off tbh and I am one.

[m.m]

When you get popular, your mistakes will also get exposed much more and become untolerable because the expectations has also raised.

[hamblok]

First time I tried to get into Linux I used Ubuntu at the recommendation of my boss at the time. I didn't have bleeding edge hardware but apparently the latest kernel at the time (this was in 2016) still didn't really support a lot of the hardware I needed to do on my machine. I ended up using Manjaro and it pretty much just worked out of the box with little hassle, which is where I cut my teeth on Linux. And then I switched to vanilla Arch when I knew better and started having serious issues with Manjaro, not to mention questionable practices on Manjaro's end either. So that's why I hate those, but if it works for you more power to you.

[KyzerSusie]

Used Ubuntu for about 10 years until I got disgusted with the stupid things they implemented and the direction they were heading. I wouldn't use Ubuntu now for that very logical, factual, honest reason. Nothing hateful about it, and it has nothing to do with their popularity.

[BWGPEI]

Could be a sign of our times. As an older user, I don't hate the alternate distributions that I try and then don't use. Nor do I hate the daily drivers I built and loaded - quite the opposite.

[sulinity]

hating on Manjaro is something silly, it is the best entry level distro for new Linux users, because in the end almost all Manjaro users end up installing Arch Linux, and that's the whole point....and that's better than recommending Ubuntu, because they will also end up installing Arch, so if newbies begin with Manjaro they will suffer a lot less on their Linux path...IMO Ubuntu and Debian, are more directed towards industry, work, servers etc... the desktop option is definitely Arch Linux.
PD/ A lot of the hate for many things in this world begin when something good (or someone...) changes its essence for the sake of money or fame, so the hate is justified and deserved.

[fre]

Keep up your good work! DT is spot on and I agree completely

[Ferran-Gnu-Linux]

In the old days when we had a problem with our linux distribution we spent a lot of hours and days looking for help, learning and solving our problems. Nowadays I don't see that same attitude and at the slightest problem we change of distribution and spread hatred against the previous one generating hate.