Hamza Tzortzis on the Intellectual Dishonesty of Professor Myers SHOCKING! 29/11/11

Islam-Haters please click the dislike button on your right , Thanks

Myers accepts defeat see below:

Myers changes his stance from Ireland, In Ireland Myers says the 'Quran is Wrong'. After reviewing the iERA Research Paper he now believes its the Quran has ' very little opportunity for disproof, and they can be made to fit just about any reasonable observation.'

To download the paper please go to:

[Altairific]

This guy made me an atheist single handedly, lol. He let me see how foolish I was.

[MrMnoorist]

I've noticed that every time he get caught in one of his fallacies, he accuses them of intellectual dishonesty.

[thebrownieification]

My faith in humanity has been restored after seeing more dislikes than likes. 

[kamrulhasan]

It was your good buddy Adnan Rashid who first claimed the word 'thumma' means after, stop blaming PZ Myers for your own act of shooting yourself in the foot.


How many more lies one has to regurgitate to defend a medieval religion? How can you guys not see the truth, the word of God would never even have such scope of discrepancies and ambiguity; the book simply is not from God.

[joe]

Remember this guy is arguing about scientific stuff, and accusing a scientist of dishonesty, at the same time he believes in a flaying donkey !
Very logical hamza :-/

[Pitvp]

I'm talking about embryological stage, where an embryo turns into a fetus, bones complete their development when they give a skeletol appearance before the muscles, & muscles complete its formation after that. read mebryology text books of highest of authorities & they say this to. yes bones & muscles might star to develop simultaneously but the differences in complete occur at different times. Quran speaks in that sense. also quran was right on semen originating from the loins (seminal vesicle)

[SarahMalikmnm]

I never understand the reason for hating religion. Atheists would search up Islamic lectures and videos on YouTube and then write meaningless comments underneath. Please find something better to do.

[peterlikesthis]

Apparently if I dislike this video I am against Islam.
I'm against Islam anyway, but that's not why I disliked the video.

[OccamsAftershave]

Hold on! HT's argument is that the 'science' in the Koran is no longer miraculous, it just does not "negate reality"?
What about the stars being in the lowest of the heavens and closer to the earth than the moon?(67:3, 5)(71:15-16) The sun orbiting the earth? (21: 33)(36:38). The universe created in 6 days? (50:38). A flat earth? (78:6 and many others).
The only intellectual dishonesty is from HT.

[ThaLuqmonster]

"It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Qur’an about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, or Allah, because most of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God or Allah". - That indeed tells me alot.

[SarahMalikmnm]

When Islam haters have nothing to argue about they start abusing. Every argument reaches this point under every video where there are arguments.

[cleopatra]

He literally just read that muscles are forming around the "developing skeleton"...LITERALLY meaning the two are forming simultaneously and still ignores it. LOL

[TheAikenHead]

Hamza: You can run, but you can't hide.

[ryuuM]

186 Islam-haters just got educated in embryology. Having them listen to us is already a major victory for us and them.

[UmTaymia]

Ibn 'Uthaymeen wrote:
"As for the person who believes in it (evolution theory), we say to him:
"You are an ape in the form of a human."
(al-Qawl al-Mufîd (2/245)

[CamCanCare]

Because it kept it as vague as possible. Read the link, Myers breaks it down step by step. He has certainly not admitted defeat, which is what the vid description says

[ThaLuqmonster]

The first time the verses regarding embryology in the Quran was examined was in the 80's my friend, by Dr. Keith Moore, who by the way agrees that embryology in the Quran correlates with modern embryology, these verses have not been examined in depth for centuries.

[Greyclouds]

@freebiovideos
This is precisely the problem of dealing with religious apologists: they use a shifting definition of terminology in order to adapt their "interpretations" to reality. For example, the "firmament" is just an "abstract" separation of atmospheric layers rather than, as it is literally written, a hard shell separating waters.
Hamza's grasp of embryology is lacking, precisely for the reasons that you pointed out and many more.

[ThaLuqmonster]

A significant clarification to make is that this contention is not representative of a consensus amongst embryologists. According to many embryologists limb bone and muscle formation are not simultaneous. For example embryologist Bruce Carlson confirms that the limb bones are formed before the limb muscles:
''The skeleton is the first major tissue of the limb to show overt signs of differentiation''.

[simonebruno]

Hamza Tzortzis always reminds me of Judith Butler's crystal clear prose in his immortal essay "Further Reflections on the Conversations of Our Time": "The move from a structuralist account in which capital is understood to structure social relations in relatively homologous ways to a view of hegemony in which power relations are subject to repetition, convergence, and rearticulation brought the question of temporality into the thinking of structure, and marked a shift from a form of Althusserian theory that takes structural totalities as theoretical objects to one in which the insights into the contingent possibility of structure inaugurate a renewed conception of hegemony as bound up with the contingent sites and strategies of the rearticulation of power." Blablablablabla