Secret Of Amphoreus, Remembrance & The 13 Flamechasers - Honkai Star Rail 3.0 Lore & Theory

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Secret Of Amphoreus, Remembrance & The 13 Flamechasers - Honkai Star Rail 3.0 Lore & Theory
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Thought I had mentioned it in the video but Forgot to mention of course a Stellaron will be involved and might just be causing issues with the memory a long with a lord ravager being involved because of the stellaron, But If we get to live and play out a past memory do you think we'll meet Ena whoever that was before they became an Aeon? Which Aeons do you think are at play here? & Do you think Amphoreus will be in the past, Present Or both at the same time? Let me know your thoughts very excited for 3.0 :)

TheGamerChronicles
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Since the TB's path is Remembrance and using a feather as weapon, my take is that TB's role is to write / rewrite the whole history and fate of Amphoreus. It's possible that this is consequence of a whole world being transformed to a memetic entity, the power of memory will play an important part in the main quest and up to an witness to record it all.

Another interesing to note that in the trailer the number 3 is being contantly repeated.

3 faced-Messanger.
3 Paths in war.
3 Titans.
Even there's 12th Flamecore Bearers and Cerysa is the 13th.

So my take the narrative style of Amphoreus's quest will be a Hero's Journey. The beginning, the motivation, the quest, the lowest point, the development and finally the resolution.

mariapazgonzalezlesme
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I'm still convinced that if Amphoreus has aspects of the past existing in the present and future at the same time (like a world whose entire timeline moves forward with it/a sort-of endless resurrection cycle) then Herta's interest will lie at figuring out ways to harness the ability to 'weave time' in a similar way to how Polka Kakamond has managed to do it so that she can be given a proper audience to meet Polka face to face, ESPECIALLY after the Sim U expansion we just got

marihuanosswag
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I find it incredible that Nanook was not mentioned in this video considering the golden blood mentioned in the trailer.

redrikari
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What if the 3 Aeons are from Destruction, Finality and Remembrance?
- I mean the last Symbol we saw in the Trailer was an infinity one and it's said Finality isn't the end but the begin of something new
Story: collapse of the civilization [Destruction] -> recording [Remembrance] -> restart [Finality] -> Destruction -> ... etc.

And we literally just see/relive the story of the old 12/13 Hero's that fighted an Emanator of Destruction and lost at the end until we can rewrite Story thanks to expi Elysia (path Finality?) and safe the world to get a good romantic end instead.
(that somehow change the history because we literally traveled back in time.)

reguluscorneas
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If there’s a connection to the Order here, that’s going to work great with the theory that Sunday will be joining the Astral Express. He’ll get to see the aftermath of a world controlled by Order, and how it spiraled and fell to ruin. A major shakeup to his faith that would push him to further accept the Trailblaze.

CatieCat
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Sunday going with us to that place to see what could become of Penacony if he succeeded makes a lot of sense

mith
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Oh fuck dont tell me we are AGAIN only meeting the 13 flame chasers through memories... It would be horrible

stonehead
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I feel like our trailblaze journey will be about recording the correct history of Amphoreus. I just assumed that the notebook and pen has in their splash art is would relate so much.

findingnins
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This actually explains a lot to me since I learned about the existence of Anaxa (shortened from Anaxagoras)! HE MIGHT BE THE KEY THAT CONNECTED ALL THE DOTS HERE.

Anaxagoras was the first Pre-Socratic philosopher to introduce the concept of Nous (though his definition of Nous might be somewhere between what Ena did to the universe—ordering and gathering all the small particles into something more logical). Perhaps it’s implied that, before Nous ascended into aeonhood, Ena's entire existence wasn't the total answer to the chaotic universe! So, the birth of Nous may came after the memories of Amphoreus had faded. Anaxagoras believed that there was more existence than just order (divine gods, etc., like the Titans), which explains why his character is introduced as Anaxa, the foolish one who disrespects the god (Ena) and seeks Nous! Later, the knowledge and logic themselves were gathered by Nous.

Anaxa may have been the one who gave Nous the ideal of its own existence. Additionally, it’s stated by Herta that Fuli knew all the memories of everything but was still after Nous (which can be implied that Nous probably knew all the memories of the past too in order to solve all the present questions in the universe).

BONUS: Anaxagoras was one of the first person to discover the truth behind those fake suns (the truth of god)in Amphoreus, since Anaxagoras was the first to point out that the moon is just a rock, and the sun is just a fire rock, which could insulted religious people who believed in Helios/Selene(sun moom gods during titans era )😭.

(English is not my first language, so I may not have explained everything clearly, but I hope anyone can understand what I was trying to say. Please continue my delusion!)

mastermooky
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The Chrysos Heirs are the HSR's version of the 13 Flamechasers but I can't shake the feeling that each of them are also referenced to some Greek Gods or demi gods, like for example Mydei is how I picture Ares would look like in an anime, Anaxa and Aglaea's design are so reminiscent of Hades and Aphrodite's deisgn in the anime Records of Ragnarok and Castorice kinda reminds me of Nyx

idontspeakjapanese
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haven't even started and I already know you cooked again

Blue-wkwx
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One intresting detail is that in the trailer in one moment you can see a shadowed hand likely playing chess and there is a unamed Lord Ravanger called Chess player in one of xianzhou texts

Jovidiol
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There is an equation in DU called City Restorer that literally tells us a story about recreating an already destroyed world from memories, I'm 99% sure that it's the same with Amphoreus. We probably wouldn't even have been able to go there if we didn't get to Penacony first. They're totally connected to each other

grelianes
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My personal prediction for Amphoreus is

Order (the eye looks a lot like the Order symbol)

Destruction (Golden blood, Nanook’s calling card)

Remembrance (The first two characters of that new version are literally Remembrance, so it’d be kinda weird if it wasn’t involved beyond being the way there)

The timelines don’t really match up but maybe it’s some sort of time dilation thing because you can get there only through the garden of recollection?? But it’s just a theory-

ARGCentral
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I think it'll be the Remembrance, Order, and Destruction. I can't help but think of Nanook when they brought up gold blood

fightorflight
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YO not even finished yet but imagine this chapter takes place in the past memory most aeons would not even beeen ascended or born yet and and we meet ena the person before they were an aeon? That would be insane! So this whole story could be in hsr versionnof the elysian realm which is a giant memory? Sorry have t finished just wanted to comment before I lose my train pf thought but this new chapter might be peak!

dashhound
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Remembrance and Destruction are def two of three

devilofgreed
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In my opinion, the true main themes of 3.0-3.7/8 are decay and loss especially with the supposed three paths involved: The Remembrance, The nihility, and The Erudition. This is because the main symbol that I presume will be discussed during 3.2-3.3 and 3.6-3.7 is Theta aka the Greek symbol representing a plethora of concepts. In mathematics, it most commonly represents rotation and angles and is a prime staple of trigonometric functions (transcendental functions). Transcendental functions signify the role of transcendance which is above and beyond ascension into Aeonhood. With rotation, you can rotate your understanding which aligns with Nous because the Geniuses’ cognition can be augmented through rotation and further multiplication of imaginary numbers. This can mean that the Geniuses’ as emanations of Nous can funnel their own imaginary energy back into Nous making Nous more powerful. My hypothesis is that emanators serve as an investment for Aeons and by investing THEIR imaginary energy into THEIR emanators, THEY hope that THEIR emanators can share back new imaginary energy into THEM.

Regarding Nihility, signs suggest that this would play a huge roll in connecting amphoreus with penacony. I presume that a future trailblazer continuance mission sometime in patch 3- will consist of the ninth day of Penacony involving the mission where the trailblazer will unlock the nihility path while witnessing the worlds of penacony and amohoreus consumed by IX’s shadow. With continuous echoes of Theta, the trailblazer’s perception of the world will be completely rotated and forever changed in a new direction.

awesome
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There's a lot of imagery related to Nanook, one of my theories is that it might be related to the story of how Nanook became an Aeon, with the stories of THEIR planet suffering a disaster

greatlessvalkyrie