Vimeo Doesn't WANT YOU and Here's Why

Vimeo doesn't WANT YOU anymore and it's honestly pretty sad to see such a great creative space start to slowly disappear.

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0:00 Vimeo to the MOON
0:19 Vimeo doesn't Want You
0:45 "Not the indie version of YouTube"
1:01 "Finding Their Identity"
1:15 Actions Against Vimeo Creators
1:57 $3,500 Custom Plan and Patreon Hostage
2:17 No longer a platform for indie filmmakers or artists
2:30 You can't really blame Vimeo when you look at the financials
3:18 Where can creators go now?
3:35 YouTube isn't set up yet for indie docs or films
4:00 No matter your opinion... It's sad to see a great creative space start to disappear

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[klatchabobby]

YouTube should introduce a new section like they did with YouTube gaming, dedicated to high-quality videos in the film or documentary space. You'd get a new section dedicated to films and whatnot, AND you'd get better viewing options for those works.

[FrameVoyager]

Vimeo kicking creators out with astronomically high pricing is understandable on a business level, but devastating for the indie filmmaker and documentary creator community that has thrived there for years. WHERE SHOULD THOSE CREATORS GO NOW?

[vegheadrew]

Vimeo STAFF PICK member here. I currently am paying for Vimeo PLUS. Vimeo contacted me out of the blue after a decade and said NOW I need to make 90% of my video library private or they would remove my account for copyright infringement, because of new rules. These were skateboard and snowboard videos I made with friends, not commercial work. They were home videos. So I did.... Then I went to remove Vimeo PLUS, because why keep paying for it if I cant use it. WELL, they said "Sure, you can leave, but 100% of the content you uploaded while being a Plus member will be removed off the platform". So they are basically using my personal video library of over a decade to blackmail me into staying with them. The subscription just renewed so I am TRIGGERED and here leaving a comment. Any one else experience this?

[MartinAaberge]

Vimeo might allow higher bitrate or whatever, but I have yet to watch a Vimeo video that doesn’t freeze or crash. Whenever I see a Vimeo link I go “gah…”. Vimeo just punched many many users in their face. Another thing that will backfire is that these indie artists will never pick Vimeo again when they have the power to choose platform.

[PanDownTiltLeft]

Vimeo started going downhill years before the IPO. I was on the platform in 2009 for about 5 years. When I ran into an issue their customer service was so rude and unhelpful I could no longer justify giving them my money. Things have just gotten progressively worse since then. Sad really. Was a decent platform for a while.

[jimbo-dev]

Wow, such high quality content - thank you!
I consider myself as a junior level server and web services guy and from my perspective the switch on Vimeo is understandable. Video hosting is so freaking expensive. To get a better image, let's say one gigabyte of video costs 0.01€/month. You have to have high resolution copy of it and as many lower resolution copies as there are options in settings, youtube serves 8 different versions of this video. So let's say 10GB for the high resolution copy and 25GB for all the resolutions. A high resolution web video is likely somewhere around 25mbit/s, so a server with gigabit internet connection can theoretically send the video to 40 users at the same time at maximum. Therefore you have to have multiple servers which all have to have 25GB storage to serve that one 4k video. You have to have copies of that video close to the user, because the current internet is designed to ramp up the download speed in manageable steps and it goes trough multiple handshakes so the latency will be much higher than it takes for the light to travel in a fiber connection. This just means that you cannot get the full bandwith instantly from your internet connection. A small scale video service provider has to pay 0.001€ - 0.05€/GB for the network traffic, so at 0.01€/GB 40 views of that 10GB will use 400GB of bandwith and cost 4€. So with those fees 180€ (200$) will be enough for 1800 views . The price may vary based on multiple factors and if you are a big service provider the ISP:s may want to work with you (and you get almost free bandwith to their network), because it will make their network seem like better network for their customers. Services like youtube are at that scale. Anyways, my point is that serving web video as smaller provider is one of the most expensive things you can do on internet. To me, free YouTube is a miracle, because they have to show so many ads to cover the expenses and make profit.

So please support smaller service providers. Otherwise we will be stuck with youtube forever, this audience likely understands the issues like youtube content id, moderation (or lack of it) etc. Personally I think solutions like Peertube and LBRY are the future, but whatever the future is, we need alternatives in case something happens to youtube. (Companies and services aren't eternal, so if you make living from video production, please don't just rely on yt) If you think paying for a video hosting is expensive, tell about it to your viewers, explain why having competition in video hosting is good and tell them how much they would have to pay/donate in order to compensate for their video views. If the bandwith was 0.01€/GB, every viewer would have to donate 0.1€ or 0.11$ to watch that 4k video.

And as a viewer consider using alternative platforms too and consider donating to the creators even small amounts of your currency. It will add up and even a cent is more than nothing. An USD cent is double the amount youtube pays for average creator per one view.

[MusaonYT]

Yo, Vimeo is STRAIGHT UP blackmailing their uploaders!

[HendrikusDeVaan]

Using youtube for anything embedded is a non-starter as there is no way to turn off them running ads on your content, so vimeo is a much better hosting platform.

[aahritya_tv]

what to do now? youtube isnt good enough for my films, im not getting anything else to upload on?

[PatrickStirling]

great summary. I had seen some of my favorite creators post about this on twitter but hadn't seen that report form Vimeo themselves.

[interstat]

YouTube has a TV app on every smart TV. I watch almost everything important on YT on a TV and have done since about 2009.

[pacolopezjuarez]

If YouTube had a section like STAFF PICKS I would never miss VIMEO again.

[virtualcuriosities]

1:50 she gets only hundreds of views per video and has to pay 3k? I used to think Vimeo was a real alternative to Youtube.

[RodrigoKormann]

I have an account on Vimeo since 2008 (16 years). There I used to upload videos to show my work as a motion designer. But as you said, the platform doesn't look like to support single users anymore. I think I'll have to start uploading on YouTube for now on.

[NOTLeavingLV]

Okay. I subscribed. Please. Please don’t stop making content. Trust me, most people quit before they get their biggest visibility on YouTube. Don’t stop brother.

[SeventhSaucer]

How could Lois van Baarle possibly be using so much bandwidth? They're just still pictures!

[David_Lloyd-Jones]

Good post. I'm learning, so my opinion is no big deal, but I don't disagree with anything here.
You're getting a bit of low echo in your audio, so low that it may be from a wooden surface under your mike-stand. If it's not that (easily cured with a simple doily or table napkin) then it may be the solid wooden wall behind you, in which case you're looking for some curtain.
But I think it's the table.

[explicatudo]

Does vimeo has Watermark when we edit our videos? Thanks 😊

[BanjoBuilders]

Dang. I really wanted this to work. Netflix? Really?!

[xiomanaxoxoxo]

Vimeo needs to attract creators and small business owners alike and do volume as more and more people move to need a platform to work on their videos -and distribute them Vimeo could really win big 2023 and beyond there should be a concerted effort to scoop up all these hundreds of thousands of content creator small business coaches begin to need storage for their videos Vimeo could win big.